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Merlin vsm mme owners, Cardas cabling Question.

HI, just purchased an used pair of merlin vsm mme,replaced my Von swheikert VR3, my Question is, why cardas cables are so critical for this speakers, had cardas cables before, speakers and interconnect, and heated the sound of those cables, very muddy and slow, bass all over the place,coulnt'pull them out fas enough,
my preamp is joulet electra 150mk11, and I'm really scare to spend $3000,or more on used cardas GR,cables,now I'm using KCI silk worm with analysis solo cristal I/C, sounds good, but a little thin, great midrange, but not full body sound, that I'm acustom to, what will cardas bring to the table , in this situation.

your coments wil be apreciated;

thanks:

Cheers:
juancgenao
martykl
3,578 posts
 
Juan,

By all means, follow away.
I, too, think highly of Bobby's advice.
I just don't always agree with him. Doesn't make me right, but it also doesn't make me wrong. I've lived with the speakers for about 10 years now and have earned the right to form my own opinion. I'd encourage you to experiment in order to do the same, but, hey.....whatever floats yer boat.

Marty
bhoage
112 posts
 
I also think Bobby provides great advice and I used the AU24 speaker cables as a result when I couldn't afford the GR's. I used and still use some GR in my system but for my tastes I really have been very happy with Stealth cables and am moving more of my cables to that brand.

I think the Cardas Golden Reference are a good fit but by all means there are personal preferences at play as well and you don't have to use GR's and even if you do, you might find one day YOU prefer something else and that's OK.

Cheers.
juancgenao OP
64 posts
 
HI, Boage, how do you compare the sealth MLT,with the GR?
do you get full body sound as cardas, what's the sonic diference there is a pair for sell I'just may grab, no cardas spkrs cables available and also been intrigued about the MLT,please explain:

thanks:
turboglo
110 posts
 
Maybe I am one of those cult-like followers, but I can say first hand that each improvement to the VSM's that I've personally experienced was not at all subtle. I went from upgraded VSM-MMe with leaded Super BAM to a lead-free Super BAM and it was a significant improvement. Then I want from lead-free Super BAM and RC's to the Master versions with Duelund caps and the improvement was stunning.

The fact that the basic design hasn't changed and yet the sound has dramatically improved with each upgrade only proves that the basic design was good to start with.

I will say that set-up is critical with the VSM's. An inch makes a difference. By the way, I'm using Cardas GR speaker cable and Cardas Clear interconnects and I find them to be tonally neutral, yet highly musical. I haven't tried a lot of different of cables, but that's because I'm actually satisfied.
martykl
3,578 posts
 
Let me clarify:

No offense was intended by the "cult" reference. I was merely trying to explain how some people have concluded that the VSM won't work properly unless paired with "insert Bobby's choice here". If you search these threads, the product has been criticized for this, as in:
You know, if you buy VSMs, you'll have to ditch the rest of your system and replace it with "insert Bobby's choices here".

I've seen that one and I know that Bobby has, too.
I find it outright silly. I've used more than a dozen different amps with mine, ranging from 300B SETs to high powered SS monoblocks and the speaker sounded terrific (although a bit different) with each.
Sorry if I offended, but I was merely advising the OP that Cardas cables weren't his only choice for the VSM.
I intended nothing more and apologize to any who felt slighted by my choice of words.

Marty
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