Merrill Audio VERITAS Amps: Any other experiances?


Despite the Sandy Hurricane interruptions, Merrill was kind enough to provide me the opportunity to audition his Merrill Audio Veritas Mono-block amps with my system. He delivered the amps and I listened for approx 48 hours over a period of three days. It should be noted that never once in this time frame did I or anyone else listening experience listening fatigue.

The Veritas units were temporary replacements for my ARC VTM200 MONO-blocks and other than a short experience with my neighbors ARC 610 Mono-Blocks which really brought my Maggies to life, it was a reawakening as to what my Maggies can do given sufficient power. It's not that the VTM200 don't do a good job, its that financially, moving up with more powerful tube amps is out of the question.

Basically , I was overjoyed with what I was listening to. With the Veritas supplying 700 watts per channel vs the 200 tube watts, which is fundamentally 3 and one half times the power I had been feeding them, it was the first time I heard the Maggies with the power they were recommended to be supplied with other than the 610 experience. It should be noted that every piece of electronic audio equipment I have is TUBE centered. The presentation of the Veritas into the system was the first time a pure solid state unit had been introduced to the system and the lasting impression was WOW...just like the web site stated!

We listened to vinyl as well as CDs...Jazz and full orchestration as well as solo piano, cello and violin. Beside myself and occasionally my wife, the listening panel included Blaine Handzus of the NJAS as well as an interested neighbor along with Merrill.

If and when I replace the ARC VTM200s, the Veritas would be at the top of the list.

Having heard Class D amps at other systems, I had never been totally satisfied with what they delivered but the Veritas units presented a completely satisfying and different audio presentation. In short, the 'you are there' effect the Maggies are famous for with the proper watts was stunning.

Simply put, the Veritas are an audio achievement, with extremely accurate front to back definition as well as a superbly accurate soundstage presentation. The holographic effect of instrument position within the orchestra was excellent.

But more to the point, the sounds of the instruments themselves were very accurate. My wife, who listens to live music on a daily basis, both strings, keyboard and horns made the comment that she "could hear the cellos and violas breath".

It was a sad hour when Merrill came back to take his amps away!
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"PS Just incase you did not know and it could make a difference, Merrill Audio has a trade up program and I have heard it has helped others. Otherwise go with the above."
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Hifial,
If Merrill really wanted to help me out with their trade up program, they would accept my mother inlaw.

If I still had the discretionary income I had when I was working, I would probably go with the Merrill Veritas monoblocs or something similar.

But,if I go with the Hypex NC400 modules in kit form,
I'll follow your advice and do it right : Litz cabling, quality binding posts, solid chassis with Stillpoints Mini isolation.

Thanks,
Tim



Noble100, Good luck and enjoy. Just make sure you layout the modules correctly, twist the wiring were needed, do not cross certain wire over the modules and point the contact wires/spades on the screws in the same direction on the amp modules.

I know it is long but the DIY site has photos, just make sure it was one of the correctly done ones and not one that is done "good enough" as far as wiring and layout. Also audio circle.

PS If possible look for a enclosure that gives you the best of layouts even if it means a larger chassis.
got a set of Veritas on saturday, will probably do some a/b testing vs my DIY NC400 soon, they are serving different purposes in my setup, planning to run my NC400 for home theater, and veritas for my 2 channel setup.
Ufokillerz, unless your new Veritas are completely broken-in, be patient with them.... Estimate approximately 800 hours of making music for them to perform optimally. G.
Ufolilerz, I agree with Guidocorona about giving them enough time to break-in. Also always leave them on not in standby. Standby will make have to wait several hours for them to sound great again.

By the way, what feet did you get. Ultra Mini Stillpoints?

I have tried the MIG by Synergistic Research and the Mini and Ultra SS by Stillpoints. All were very good but the Mini were a worthwhile improvement over the MIG. For the hell of it I tried the SS and was surprised of the improvement over the Mini. Not small at all. So now my Veritas all have the Ultra SS. I recommend the SS otherwise go with the MIni. you will not regret it.

Looking foreword to you listening impressions.
Hifial,

Thanks for all the good advice. I'll try to follow all of it. You've been a big help.

Thanks,
Tim
All, my review and findings of the Merrill Veritas monoblocks has been just posted to Positive Feedback on issue No. 68:

http://positive-feedback.com/Issue68/merrill_audio.htm

Once the amps were properly broken in with 1,000 hours of active operations, I did not detect any musical bandwidth limitations, nor any stereotypical class D artifacts with Veritas... Only sheer music.

G.
What a joke. You think you can actually remember what something sounded like 1000 hrs ago?
Jtwrace, my apologies for any unintended humor...

Yes, I remember well what things sounded like in the past.

However, to assist my memory which is still short of perfect, I track equipment breakin in spreadsheets, where I write listening notes which get associated automatically with dates and hours of operations. Hence my reference to particular milestones in the article.
Hi Guidocorona,
Please accept my congratulations on a beautifully written review. How does the Merrill sound differ from your long term favorites--the Rowland 725/625 amps?
Thanks!
Guido, how you doin, as they say here in some parts of Jersey.

GREAT review and it was worth the long wait. I see the attacks have started. You handle them well.
My friend asked me if I could bring my pair of Veritas amps over to his house so he could listen to them again. He really likes them but wanted to have a friend of his who is an award winning recording engineer hear them in his system against his current amps. Said amps are tube based and highly regarded.

To make a long story short, "Mikey likes it". No he really, really liked the sound of the system with the Veritas in it.

Now my friend plans on getting a pair of Veritas. Go figure?!
Hi APDOC, my absolute reference amplifier is the new Rowland M925 4-chassi monoblock. See:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?aamps&1369518273&openmine&zzGuidocorona&4&5#Guidocorona

Concerning class A/B Rowland M625 300W stereo and Veritas 400W monos.... My M625 was a very early unit that lacked the benefits of some key circuit enhancements derived from M725, which JRDG incorporated in later M625 production units.

Predictably, Veritas monos with their higher power delivery excell in authority, size of both sound stage and instrumental images. Both amps are excellent at controlling difficult to handle treble "jaggies" in complex sostenuto passages and coherence of bass, but in this arena Veritas was superior to my early M625 unit.
Guido,

I would just like to chime in, as several others already have, and congatulate and thank you for your series of well written and articulate posts that formed, when taken as a whole, an excellent review of your very nice amps. I found it very interesting and informative on how your impressions of their performance changed as they broke in.
Thanks again,
Tim
Thank you Tim, if I have the opportunity of reviewing more amps, I will probably use a similar format... With the listening finding outlining the break-in progress until the device appears to have stabilized... I am concerned that more often than not, equipment is evaluated with a premature snapshot of its evolution, or within too narrow a time window, yielding an incomplete view of its real performance potential.

G.
Guido,

Just to be clear, I was mostly commenting on your review of your Rowland 825 monoblocks on a separate thread but your Veritas review was also very good.

Thanks,
Tim
Thank you Tim, you probably meant the Rowland M925 monoblock amp, which is my new reference amplifier... I have not written much at all about the M825 stereo yet... As I do not have that device in my system at this time, and will not be hearing it until RMAF 2013, where -- per the latest RMAF 2013 downloadable database at:

http://audiofest.net/new/americas-audio-show/export-rmaf-products-list/

it may grace the Joseph Audio suite. Until then, I will limit my comments on M825 based on what I can derive from published specs, and a very few facts that have been communicated to me by the factory... And just occasional personal flights of audiophilic fancy *grins!*

Saluti e buone cose, G.

Saluti, G.
Guido,

Yes, I meant your new Rowland 925 mono/4pc amps. My mistake.

Thanks,
Tim