Veritas Cables a new brand that I found


Always been a big fan of smaller cable makers. I've had great luck in my system with brands like Audio Art, Cabledyne (RIP), Audio Sensibility, and Triode Wire Labs. These and others I'm surely forgetting seem to offer so much bang for the buck compared to the more mainstream brands. Not exactly cheap but usually a great value for what you get. It's noteworthy that most of these are most easily found by cruising Audiogon, US Audio Mart, Audiocircle, etc and if you only ever read Stereophile/TAS you'll probably never be exposed to all these great options. 

As with most people around here I've also had my fair share of Audioquest, Kimber, Shunyata, Cardas, Wireworld, MIT, and the rest of the big names. Some of those were very enjoyable but I have a hard time when I think about how big their marketing budgets are. And when my local dealer will always give me a deal for a very substantial discount, it makes me realize how inflated the regular pricing is. Not to mention I notice that many of these don't really get good until you move fairly high up the line, with their entry and mid priced options often being pretty uninspiring.

A few weeks ago I was browsing the various classifieds as I often do and stumbled across a name that was new to me. Turns out that's because they are new, period. Veritas Cables calls themselves a boutique hifi cable company specializing in small batch creations. That sounds reminiscent of early Black Cat Cable which they actually reference as an inspiration. This immediately caught my attention as I used to work with Chris Sommovigo at one point and loved his approach to building cables. The company had 3 items listed at the time: RCA interconnects, a power cable, and an ethernet cable. I liked what I saw but was actually in the market for an XLR interconnect, so I checked out their website (still under construction) which indicated more cables were coming soon. I figured it was worth an email inquiry to see what the time frame might be. 

I got a quick response stating that they had just completed a batch of XLR cables and while most were spoken for via local word of mouth sales, they did have one extra set they could sell me. The price was well within my target and actually much more affordable than the others I had been looking at (Audio Art Copper Cryo, Morrow Audio MA6,  Silnote Anniversary being the main contenders). So I took a chance on it, although with their in home trial terms it wasn't a huge gamble. They sent over an invoice with paypal and due to Veritas being in California like me the cable arrived very quickly.

When the company told me they don't use any fancy packaging, they weren't kidding. It was more like buying a second hand cable off a forum with no original packaging. But I've never cared about any of that stuff and would rather have that money go towards the actual product. In that sense I was not disappointed. Veritas calls this their Magnus cable and it shares design cues with the rest of their line I had seen listed on USAmart and the Veritas website. Specifically that means the use of a metallic silver braided jacket instead of the usual plastic or fabric sleeving most other cables have. This is the same approach used by Ed Bowman with his Cabledyne brand which I miss dearly. Back in the day my entire system was Cabledyne Reference Silver, then upgraded to their Vanguard line and was happy with that for quite a while. So I am very pleased to reintroduce a similar looking cable. That said the Veritas Magnus is somewhat thicker yet more flexible than the Cabledyne models which makes it easier to deal with.

Veritas doesn't come right out and list exactly what the internal composition is on their designs. When I asked directly they were happy to answer so it's not a complete secret, but I guess more of a marketing choice. Discussing this with them also reminded me of chatting with Ed Bowman, where there is clearly a lot of knowledge but also a desire to simplify things for a dumb end user like me. I tend to agree with their philosophy that says silver doesn't always have to sound bright and copper isn't always warm. Designers can do a lot based on geometry and purity and shielding and a dozen other factors to where a silver cable might actually be warmer and smoother than a copper cable. Or a copper cable might be more focused on speed and treble extension. Honestly I don't care as much about the specifics as I do about the end result, just give me an excellent performing cable no matter what it's made of. 

In any case to my eyes the Veritas Magnus looks every bit as well made as the other options I had been considering. Those range from $630 for the Audio Art, to $1250 for the Morrow, to $1500 for the Silnote, all for 1.5m XLR versions just to give you a general idea. Meanwhile the Magnus was $389 which is almost what I would call entry level territory with the price of cables being what it is these days. 

 So far I've been using the Magnus to connect my Eversolo DMP-A8 to a variety of tube and SS headphone amplifiers in the $2-5k range, then feeding the amazing Raal Requisite CA-1a ribbon headphones via the Raal transformer box. It's a pretty simple system and this is the only interconnect involved, making it easier to spot the contributions versus a system with separate transport, DAC, preamp, and amplifier and of course cables running between each of them.

The sound I heard was shockingly open, clean, detailed, and smooth. Huge staging with impressive depth and even height on the right recordings. Very convincing tone on violins, guitars, and vocals both male and female. The Raal headphones are pretty ruthless and reveal all sorts of upstream shortcomings, but I got the feeling I was bouncing up against the limits of the DMP-A8 D/A conversion rather than the cable/amp/headphones. I'll test this out soon when I switch to my bigger system with a better/more expensive DAC, and I'll report my findings when I have some thoughts on that.

Checking my cable collection for things with a vaguely similar price as the Magnus. I rounded up a Harmonic Tech Truth Link, Analysis Plus Copper Micro, Anticables 3.1, and Moon Audio Black Dragon, all of which sold for somewhere in the sub $500 space (I think) at some point in the last decade. It was no contest, the Veritas Magnus outclassed them all by a significant margin. These are all decent cables with something to offer which is why I keep them around in my stash, but compared to the Veritas they all sounded either dull, thin, slow, compressed, or some combination of those traits. I also note that each of them looks and feels like more of a budget product (which I guess they are) where the Veritas Magnus seems like it belongs in an entirely higher class despite the price not reflecting that.

My next goal is to compare it to some others in my arsenal priced around the $1K range. So far, from memory I would say it feels very competitive even in that class, but I want to be more specific about it so no comments for now. The crazy thing is that Veritas told me they have another XLR option (didn't catch the name or other specifics) positioned higher than the Magnus, for what is likely still a pretty reasonable price considering their approach to the market. All of those were spoken for at the time but did ask to be notified when the next batch is ready so we can discuss that. I had been considering the Infigo Audio Sparkle or maybe even Sparkle Signature XLR down the road but I might detour to the Veritas instead, just for the sake of adventure. But that depends on the pricing and specifics they give me, if and when we have that discussion. I'm also curious about their power cables or maybe a USB down the line. Sometimes when cable companies try to do everything, they bite off more than they can chew, or seem to excel with digital rather than analog or vice versa. So it would be interesting to see if Veritas can do the full line of cables to this same high caliber.

In closing I'll say (and it's probably obvious) that I'm extremely impressed with this product so far. It's the most dramatic result I've had from a cable in quite some time, and I appreciate that it didn't involve spending thousands of dollars. The folks at Veritas really seem to be on the right track in terms of quality and value. Which is not to be confused with being very good at marketing a product, which honestly they don't really seem to be, nor do they seem to even care all that much at the moment. They definitely have some improvement to do when it comes to optimizing their operation, but they told me their focus is on organic growth and quality over quantity. That seems like a noble approach so I can't fault them for it. Their website also could really use more specifics but at least they answer emails quickly and are easy to deal with that way.

I'll be back in the next week or so with additional updates. Maybe some downsides will present themselves. But so far it's been a totally positive experience. Next up is my bigger system with more expensive components and cables, we'll see how the Magnus holds up in that context. 

 

v-fi

I don’t have any first hand experience with Vogue Cables, but see some strong similarities in their designs with what I recall being offered from Cabledyne. They regularly offer significant discounts on their list prices. Does Veritas have a website? I can't seem to find one.

Veritas Cables does have a website however they are working on it and there is not much information there. You would be better off checking US Audiomart and type in Veritas, you will find more information there.

Sorry I mentioned in my rambling post that I am dumb, and now I've gone and proven it to be true. Should I have dropped a link to either their website or their US Audiomart listnings? Yep. Did I do it though? Nope.

Here is the link to their profile where you will see whatever items they currently have posted for sale. It also shows a link to their website which as @lak mentioned is not all that informative at the moment.

Vogue Cables does indeed seem to have similarities to Cabledyne, specifically the identical small labels that show directionality and the model name. But then again they seem to have abandoned the metal sleeving in favor of a different approach so who knows. They are on my list of eventual things to try but the new direction doesn't quite resonate with me as much as the older Cabledyne stuff. 

 

Thanks for the information.  I have seen their listings on US Audiomart.  Looks interesting, but I hadn't seen any reviews. 

I just took delivery of a Black Cat Silverstar 88 rca interconnect.  Early impressions are very good. 

……I had a couple of birthdays reading this ! Does this qualify as Audiogon’s Tolstoy’s ; “ War and Peace “ ? …..holy cow ! Too much for my brain , just listen to the music .

Oh but you can’t listen to the music unless you’ve spent thousands in the 1 yard wall to equipment Marketing scam. Science, physics, aside you can hear a difference if you burn in the pretty S… that you’ve sold your car to buy. I’ve always loved the have you tried it argument and if so and don’t hear what we sell there is money back or spend more on next week’s improved product. The only thing these yes or no arguments IMO have added up to, it’s bloody boring. 
So yes a novel idea…listen to the music.

Nobody is talking about cables with used-car price tags, nobody is talking about not being able to enjoy music without upgrading cables. Pretty sure we are all here because we love listening to music and want to enjoy that activity more thoroughly. If you don't like cable upgrades or care about them, it's really really easy to just never click on a post like this or an ad for a cable that you find offensive. I myself don't understand fancy watches but I don't hang out on Rolex forums talking trash and saying my Apple Watch is better.

Anyway I emailed Veritas and after some back and forth I ordered one of their Ethernet cables to try out. Should be here soon. The last topic I started here was months ago asking what people are using for Ethernet cables. Got some great suggestions and have been trying different models, so far good results. Also surprising since price seems totally disconnected from performance, even when using 2 cables from the same brand sometimes I like the lower model better. Interested to see where the Veritas fits in compared to better known brands. 

The Veritas Connexa ethernet cable arrived yesterday. Really interesting look to it. I guess this is how Cabledyne products were built, I have not seen any of those personally. I like it.

Sound is promising so far. Can already tell I like it better than my Wireworld Starlight 8 I had been using. Now to compare with Audioquest Vodka and Diamond. I don't love the Diamond even though it is more expensive so theoretically higher end. The Vodka is really great though. I'll update when I have more info. I'm using it with an Innuos Zenith mark III.  

v-fi,  thank you so much for your post. You reeled me in. My Veritas power cord arrived today and I placed it in my power conditioner and and have been llistening for an hour. I know that many of us have described the 'veil being lifted post upgrade when we weren't aware of there  being a veil. I am most impressed with this cable. Having paid a 'reasonable' price is icing on the cake. My endorphins endorphins have kicked in since I have been listening to my music with my new cord. Highly recommended. 

@bander  that is great news! I saw their AC cable listed and it looks real nice. I bookmarked it for possible future upgrades now that I hear your positive impressions.

Still extremely pleased with the Veritas Magnus interconnects. I put them in my bigger system and the same strengths I heard in the headphone rig come through with speakers. I’ll probably end up with a few more sets by the end of the year so I can wire everything with the same cabling.

I’m tempted to try the flagship XLR cable they mentioned but depends on the details and pricing. Supposedly they will get that listed soon.

@v- fi I will certainly purchase one or 2 more power cords for DAC and streamer. I'm all set with my other ics, pcs and speaker cable. Yes, check out the Veritas power cord.

Has anyone purchased their (Veritas Cables) Fidelis RCA interconnects and care to share their thoughts on that product?

Another small cable manufacturer that I have faith in is Empirical Design. Been in business for years, doesn't advertise, all word-of-mouth. 

@lak when I reached out to them about XLR cables they told me the Fidelis interconnects were their biggest seller when it comes to word of mouth sales. Looks like they have sold some on US Audio Mart recently so impressions may start popping up soon. I will probably end up picking up a Fidelis down the road since I love the Magnus XLR and they are based on the same concept. 

@tcutter I always wanted to try an Empirical Overdrive DAC. Those look beautiful. Haven't heard much about their cables though.

Interesting that you guys mention Cabledyne. I still have a full set of their copper ribbon power cables with the metal sleeving. They were very good and I think the only weakness was the Wattgate nickel/brass connectors, but they were such good value for the price.

What happened to them?

@agisthos They were indeed excellent cables for the price. The folks at Cabledyne were very passionate about meting a price target, so they used relatively good but low cost connectors. I agree that aspect held them back from their full potential. 

As far as I know the company folded at least 6 years ago. I don't know why. There is speculation that Vogue Cables has something in common with Cabledyne as they use what looks like identical labels (the white ones with the product name and directional arrows). But that could be a total coincidence, maybe it's a stock template or something. Ed Bowman was the only name I ever encountered as being in charge at Cabledyne, and he was based in Arizona, while Tom Swenson runs Vogue out of Florida. So who knows. 

In any case I see Veritas Cables as being similar in spirit to Cabledyne, but with less compromise on the connectors. I still own and use several sets of the Cabledyne Silver Reference XLR interconnects so I should do a direct comparison with the Veritas Magnus XLR when I get a chance.