More Power or use subwoofer to boost bass for music
Posted by Erik Squires in this thread: " Jesus, the 4 sub cult is strong here. " " The cult: Your problem is you have 1/3 the number of speakers you need!! You must add 4 more, bring it up to six!!! " " What I have a problem with is the cult that they are the one thing that should be discussed when a poster asks for help with a little more bass. " " Are any of you listening to yourselves?? Really?? " " Hahahha. Cult. " " The swarm was an interesting idea which is promoted by fetishists whose motives and honesty I question. " " To hear the fanatics tell it, no one has even heard bass before them, and only they can fix it. Also, only they know about room acoustics. It’s magic. Ignore all the previous work that has gone before, because it’s bunk before the swarm. " " You have convinced me of your intension$$$$$$$$$$$$. " " People can ask about FM tuners and some one will jump in to recommend the swarm as a fix. " " It’s not the technology, it is the cult and those who push it. " Erik, I really am surprised to see you engage in what looks to me like name-calling, straw man arguments, mocking, innuendo, and hyperbole... though I must admit the one about FM tuners was kinda funny. Maybe there is a different way for you to perceive people who advocate a technology which you concede has merit? Maybe they are not enemies, but fellow audiophiles who are sometimes overly enthusiastic about something? Nobody here is taking offense and/or accusing you of cultish behavior because you consistently advocate for room treatments, another technology which has merit. That would be out of place, wouldn’t it? Hopefully we can get to the point where we can disagree without being disagreeable. Duke |
lemonhaze62 posts04-24-2020 4:58am which in some cases is clearly wrong. I took a paragraph to explain what you did in a chapter. I'm getting better. or am I? LOL But I like "Lemon Haze", the Haze brothers, THC Titans for sure. I'm with Eric in a lot of this. Squat, grunt ,and crap out another sub/unit, anywhere works!! It my work but sure muddies the waters for me.. It may improve the SQ of that system, but I question where that system was before swarm/DBA. I can honestly say, my old way is better, not by a small margin either. Less distortion, and far more directed. I don't want BASS everywhere, I want it at the listening position(S) not everywhere in the house and the room for that matter..Control that sh#t.. get rid of it, don't make it.. Have any of you measured the bass distortion with these swarm rich environment. It's gotta be off the chart, unless it's all digital. What's the fun in that, anyone can do that. There is a trick or two though., and NO digital correction. I have 6 units, usually 2 bass columns and one or two sub units, if at all. Sometimes when the kids are over, I'll flip off the columns and used the 4 lowriders, KID stuff, BIG BOOM, in the ROOM..local PD has been here to give it a listen..LOL, they all like it too, bunch of kids, too from what I see. Regards |
The question of the day which I believe George came close to asking you is what system was driving the 804’s when you were listening to them in the store? Also did you ask them to make sure the subwoofer was off when they demo’d the speaker’s? A lot of advise offered and some were excellent advice but start at the beginning of why you bought the speakers in the first place and what was driving them. You may be shocked on what you find out especially if you bought them from Best Buy Magnolia. Some of the sales force is not the best when it comes to operating their demo systems (Like turning off the subwoofer while the speakers are being demo’d. Just a thought. |
