More Power or use subwoofer to boost bass for music


Hi,   just want to know if anyone can offer their opinions on how to boost the bass when listening to 2 channel music.

I just got a pair of B&W 804 D3 and would like to get more bass out of the speakers.   I remember the bass was pretty punchy when I heard it in the dealer showroom, but I don't seem to get that in my setup.   I currently have Parasound A31 power amp with 250 watts per channel.

So the question is whether I should get a more power amp, or add subwoofer to my 2 channel music.  I'm a little bit of a purist and would prefer not to use a subwoofer for music, but I'm open to this option.

I would definitely appreciate if anyone can share their experience/opinion.   Thanks very much.
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@ erik_squires Hi, you seem to be on a crusade to put down something which is valid and sorts out what is a real and common bass problem. I think the recommendations, for a DBA including from myself are in response to an understandable and innocent question from the OP.

I've never put down the swarm on the technical claims, and your claim of my crusade is clear projection.  I've even seen fake / one time use accounts created to refute any other options beside the swarm are viable.
People can ask about FM tuners and some one will jump in to recommend the swarm as a fix.

It's not the technology, it is the cult and those who push it.

Best,
E
This might be a shot in the dark, but have you experimented with power cords at all?
I had a power amp that changing out the stock power cord, was like Jesus showing up in the room. (Thought I'd throw that in since we were talking about cults)
Also Schiit makes that inexpensive equalizer..
Duke and Ralph did a great job of clarifying the swarm concept and it's applications to different settings, with related options...great to get the info finally from very knowledgeable members...
Posted by Erik Squires in this thread:

" Jesus, the 4 sub cult is strong here. "

" The cult: Your problem is you have 1/3 the number of speakers you need!! You must add 4 more, bring it up to six!!! "

" What I have a problem with is the cult that they are the one thing that should be discussed when a poster asks for help with a little more bass. "

" Are any of you listening to yourselves?? Really?? "

" Hahahha. Cult. "

" The swarm was an interesting idea which is promoted by fetishists whose motives and honesty I question. "

" To hear the fanatics tell it, no one has even heard bass before them, and only they can fix it. Also, only they know about room acoustics. It’s magic. Ignore all the previous work that has gone before, because it’s bunk before the swarm. "

" You have convinced me of your intension$$$$$$$$$$$$. "

" People can ask about FM tuners and some one will jump in to recommend the swarm as a fix. "

" It’s not the technology, it is the cult and those who push it. "

Erik, I really am surprised to see you engage in what looks to me like name-calling, straw man arguments, mocking, innuendo, and hyperbole... though I must admit the one about FM tuners was kinda funny.

Maybe there is a different way for you to perceive people who advocate a technology which you concede has merit? Maybe they are not enemies, but fellow audiophiles who are sometimes overly enthusiastic about something?

Nobody here is taking offense and/or accusing you of cultish behavior because you consistently advocate for room treatments, another technology which has merit. That would be out of place, wouldn’t it?

Hopefully we can get to the point where we can disagree without being disagreeable.

Duke

lemonhaze
62 posts
04-24-2020 4:58am

which in some cases is clearly wrong.

I took a paragraph to explain what you did in a chapter.

I'm getting better.  or am I? LOL

But I like "Lemon Haze", the Haze brothers, THC Titans for sure.


I'm with Eric in a lot of this. Squat, grunt ,and crap out another sub/unit, anywhere works!!  It my work but sure muddies the waters for me..

It may improve the SQ of that system, but I question where that system was before swarm/DBA.  

I can honestly say, my old way is better, not by a small margin either.
Less distortion, and far more directed. I don't want BASS everywhere, I want it at the listening position(S) not everywhere in the house and the room for that matter..Control that sh#t.. get rid of it, don't make it..

Have any of you measured the bass distortion with these swarm rich environment. It's gotta be off the chart, unless it's all digital. What's the fun in that, anyone can do that. There is a trick or two though., and NO digital correction.

I have 6 units, usually 2 bass columns and one or two sub units, if at all. Sometimes when the kids are over, I'll flip off the columns and used the 4 lowriders, KID stuff, BIG BOOM, in the ROOM..local PD has been here to give it a listen..LOL, they all like it too, bunch of kids, too from what I see.

Regards