Naim and Elac Adante, Wow

motberg
Alan Jones at HiFi Buys in Atlanta has all three brands, good sense and ears...call him or better yet stop in
i will give him a jingle also
i have bought a decent sportscar worth of stuff from him over the years....i need to say hello
he has Totem, PSB, and a few other brands....

Tomic just as expected from a Vandy Fanboy.

Please explain to me in what way did a Vandy create anything new or revolutionary?   Lets see time alignment, first order slopes not invented here. Revolutionary drivers what composite cones, again not invented here.

You mistake creative packaging and pleasing  voicing for true innovation.

The Vandy 2Ce sounds like it was invented in the 1995 and yes alloy cones and poly cone midrange drivers are the epitome of modern transducer technology.

As per Maggie again please explain how the company has managed to eliminate the physical limitations of a 180 degree out of phase back wave and a large baffle which defracts the wave?

(((Please explain to me in what way did a Vandy create anything new or revolutionary?)))

Greetings Audio Troy
Here are a couple quick vids you can watch that may better help you understand Vandersteen innovation.
 BTW  one vid is from the many of his Best at shows, in particular, from an NY show right near you with the dealer Audio Connection.
 
I especially like going in at about 2 min plus where Art Garfunkles voice is
reproduced with a breathtaking awe in this revolutionary design.

It’s these and many other moments that keeps me in love.

Perhaps you fellows have caught a good case of Vanderphobia.
Try and cheer up, deep breaths, its Okay........
Enjoy,
JohnnyR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCg9NQU5wtk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8A6hN8kgC4

Johny we have 0 Vandy envy.

The 1c and 2Ce are great value loudspeakers that have a particular set of sonic attributes.

You have your fanboys we are allways pursuing the new and the truly innovatve brands.

I wonder if you do a patent search between Richard Vandersteen, Jack Oclee Brown, Laurece Dickie, Andrew Jones who actually has more patents.

Composite cones came out of JM labs long before Ricards balsa composite in 2007.

I will take a set of Adates over 2Ce any day. You can tone down a forward speaker much harder to add detail when your tweeter cant reproduce it.,

Neither one of these products is perfect it depends on what you subscribe to, our belief is what sounds real is good, not what sounds good is the governing idea.

Go sit in front of a Wedding band with a horn section does it sound melodic or aggressive?

Our pursuit is the absolute sound, play a live drum record on both speakers and se see which set sounds the most real?

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

Hi audiotroy

I am sorry to add to this thread drift, but your comments about Vandersteen strike me as being rooted in old stereotypes.

What struck me was your comment about live horses and drums...I come at this hobby with a fair amount of live music experience, both as a performer (sax and drums) and observer.  What I take from your comments is that you think modern Vandies sound rolled off and lack detail--i.e., not "real."  I genuinely disagree with that.  I have heard the whole line (disclaimer:  I own a pair of 3A Sigs) with all manner of music, and I can't see how *that* is the criticism you would come away with.  If your criticism was a narrow vertical sweet spot, I'd give you that one.  

Anyway, you seem to be set on the favorites in your store, but if you get a chance to hear a nice set up with modern Vandies, I'd urge you to take an listen and see if you think that criticism still holds.  I'd be interested to know the details (no pun intended).

Happy listening!