New Yggdrasil - First (and second) Impressions


Okay, so I’ve finally (on order over 2 months) received my Schiit Yggdrasil. The unit arrived in exactly perfect condition (i.e. well packaged).

Upon first (and second) listening through all sources/inputs, I would need a stethoscope to discern any difference among my current components and connectivity. I also cannot detect any difference using the phase inversion button.

I suppose the aforementioned is a testament to how good my current system (before/without Yggy) already sounds. :)

I can easily A-B test because the Yggy is hooked in via balanced and my other components are also hooked directly to amp via RCA or USB.

Also, obviously I have NOT let the unit "burn in" for days because I just got it, however, it has come to full operational temperature after being powered on continuously over 24 hours.

System configuration: (Yggdrasil > XLR > Musical Fidelity M6si integrated amplifier > Golden Ear Triton Reference speakers )
all cables blue jeans cables "best" offering

Emotiva ERC-3 CD player > AES/EBU > Yggdrasil
Oppo UDP-205 blue ray player > coax > Yggdrasil
Samsung SMT-C5320 cable box > optical > Yggdrasil
Gateway NV79 Windows 10 64-bit computer > USB > Yggdrasil

I’ll be patient, but if there are any suggestions to "try" in order to hear *some* audible difference, that would be great. Appreciate any feedback you have.

Thanks.
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@devgcl

You're welcome. In a sense, all sources are removed other than the one I happen to be listening to at the time. This is because I have other devices physically powered off, albeit they are connected to the Ygyy. I don't expect that I'll set out to A/B which input source sounds better. Among other reasons, because all of my source transports are different, it wouldn't be an accurate A/B in any case. I believe Mike Moffet has stated that from the Yggdrasil's perspective where sound quality is concerned, AES/EBU is the "best". They are all great, that I can tell you. :)
My philosophy is if there is not at least a tiny bit of sound improvement ( whatever you consider an improvement) when you first use, breaking in is not going to make things better for you.  I guess you can learn to like somehing over time and pretend you love the purchase. If you cant hear a difference with the oppo, then I would return. If anything, save $1200 and buy the Oppo Sonica dac if you want a dedicated one. You can spend money on new cables with the oppo as well as the Schiit. 
I have the Yggy and Wyred 4 Sound DSD DAC2 SE V2.  I think the Oppo uses the same chip as the W4S  The Yggy and W4S sound different as night and day just in the way you would think.  the Yggy is smoother but less detailed.  The Yggy sounds best on Redbook, the W4S excels on hi rez especially DSD.  Over the last year I have gone back and forth about selling one or the other.  I am keeping both because the are so different and depending on the digital file or my mood I make it exciting or mellow.  And Hi Rez is different form Redbook.  The W4S has a half dozen filters to choose from, basically choose your poison; pre ringing vs phase timing errors.  The Yggy doesnt give a choice, I dont know what they did but it seems the Yggy says no to any pre ringing and at the same time they did something to reduce the timing problems more than the W4S but at the expense of some detail and being a bit rolled off on both ends.
4wiw  it took the Yggy over 300 hours to break in and you wont have a clue how good the Yggy can sound without really good power conditioning and cables in and out.  I could not get the COAX or Optical to sound decent, I dont have the option to use AES/EBU.  I use USB with a Curious cable and have both the regen and recovery with LPS's.  I recently changed to Wireworld silver eclipse 7 XLR 's from BlueJeans XLR-  Initially I bought one set thinking it could be a likely waste of money, I now have a set on each DAC, cant and wont ever go back.  I wont go into the power conditioning except to say it is as or more important than cabling.  At the end of the day these DAC's have very different voicing in my system.
My philosophy is if there is not at least a tiny bit of sound improvement ( whatever you consider an improvement) when you first use, breaking in is not going to make things better for you.


@aberyclark

I agree. However, as I've reported, I now do and have been hearing a distinct difference. I don't believe it was on account of break in. Instead, I wasn't using the optimal type of music to discern a difference and I wasn't necessarily aware of what to listen for. It's night and day. Delta-sigma from my Oppo and Emotiva sound great, but the multibit from the Yggy makes then sound digital by comparison.


@anzaanimalclinic

The Yggy can do PCM up to 24/192 for all inputs, and 24/192 is certainly hi rez. I do not believe the Yggy "rolls" off on any end. Also, the Wyred 4 sound is using an older ESS 9018 chip and my Oppo has the latest ESS 9038. I'm no longer interested to listening to the Sabre chip as I prefer the Yggy, however, I agree that preference and not merely better or worse can guide that decision.
I heard the Oppo UDP 205 yesterday and in no way does it sound like the Yggdrasil. In fact I would prefer my Marantz SA15s2 I had to it in sound every way being a different purpose piece. I don't care for ESS chips configurations. The Oppo is a great machine for what it is. Mostly for Home Theater applications which I'm not into or use at all. All are personal decisions on what you would like to hear and where you use it. All these micro descriptions between equipment gets tiresome, don't like don't buy it.