Not sure why he would need an integrated if he can pre-out to a dedicated amp, using the AV receiver as the pre. That is what I do, and over time have attempted to take my Yamaha out of equation completely, only really using it as a pass-thru and ‘switcher’ between modes.
The reviver will already have what an integrated provides. A separate amp will help obtain better sound in 2 channel. |
Yes the use of a better amplifier may help, however one would still be passing a signal through a multichannel processor as part of a budget AVR. I believe the OP is interested in starting with a 2-channel system and adding the video system later. |
@millercarbon "Home theater advice only really pertains if you are truly setting up a home theater with a lot of seating. In other words hardly anyone in the sweet spot. That's the real reason for all the channels. Because without the center channel people sitting way off center will hear the dialog coming from whichever speaker is closest instead of from the screen in the middle. Also all the effects coming from left or right, they will only sound right from the sweet spot, so everyone else needs the surround speakers to try and even things out.
It never works. No matter how many channels or how they are processed or how wonderful the speakers or how perfectly placed still no matter what it only ever sounds really good in the sweet spot. All you can possibly do by adding all the channels is degrade and debase whatever quality was there to begin with. Because that is the inevitable result of running it through anything multichannel.
I know. I tried. Been there. Done that. Satellites. Full range surrounds. All kinds of A/V receivers, and processors, and separates. Absolute total waste of time. And money.
Which according to the OP, $1k budget, you can afford to waste very little.
But hey, don't take my word for it. Seriously. Do not take my word for it. Go and listen. Go find the very best A/V receiver you can possibly afford. Then ask to compare it side by side with any integrated amp they happen to have in the store. ANY. If it takes you more than a nanosecond to realize the AV is crap then by all means buy it. Its what you deserve.
I mean that literally and not as an insult. No one should pay for performance they can't hear. Go and listen."
I have to politely/respectfully/whole heartedly disagree... and no offense/insult taken.
It is possible to set up a good "do it all" system. It may not compete with TOTL equipment using separates and monoblocks... but a properly set up HT system can perform very well. Even when not in a dedicated room.
To me... it's amusing when company is over, watching a movie, and they start looking around, (even out the front windows), when they try to determine where a particular ambient sound came from, (bird chirping... horn honking... etc.)
It's also enjoyable watching people relax and veg a little when getting into the 3D holographic soundstage when listening to music.
Granted... I'm cheating a little by using 7 omnipolar speakers... but I would also debate/argue that a 7 channel system is harder to set up properly... especially when not using room correction software.
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The answers here are excellent. If you want really sweet sound you should take advantage of the sensitivity of the Klipsch speakers by powering them with a single ended triode amplifier, some of which you can buy in kit form for under $1000. The 45 triode is the best but puts out very little power which is not a problem with the Klipsch speakers.
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The center channel speaker carries the dialog. Movies are largely dialog. It's the most important speaker in the system. Just because it's possible to do without one doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Whoever recommended that you get an amp and preamp didn't take your budget into consideration. For a first system on a budget a receiver is the way to go. You can get a good receiver and center channel for 1K, even in the UK. (I've found that equipment prices in the UK tend to be the same as in the US. They're just in pounds rather than dollars.<g>)
I've tried most of the brands of reasonably priced HT receivers and favor Denon. You will want a receiver that supports ARC connection between the TV and the receiver, but most receivers nowadays have it. It makes playing TV sound on the receiver easier.
Read the linked articles so you have some idea of what's going on. There's a lot to learn, but it's worth it. Best of luck!
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