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older CD transport vs newer ones.

I added a fairly inexpensive CD transport to my DCS Rossini DAC/Clock and am shocked how much better it sounds spinning a disc vs streaming it.  It's not even a close call.  I was thinking of bettering my CD transport and was looking at options such at the Jay's CD transport.  There are also options such as Mark Levinson 31.5 which was a 10K unit in it's day.  Any thoughts on the best way to go?  I get a little worried about one of these older units breaking and not being able to get it fixed.  
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georgehifi
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Three years ago I posted about fishing line for TT's that I did back in the 80's, but if the TT does not have suspension like a Gyrodeck then it can still happen to a degree as the base still resonates. 


https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/best-sturdy-floor-rack-for-turntable/post?highlight=fishing%2...


https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/subwoofer-rumble-issue/post?highlight=fishing%2Bline&post...

Cheers George



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H snsi, can you list what you read that improves?

Because this is what doesn't:
Twice the jitter
Twice the error correction
Twice the power supply noise, (even worse than twice because the computer is a noisy SMP)
The spdif digital output circuit from a good transport is far more exacting that that of a computer sound card.
And I'm sure there even more if I think about it.

Cheers George



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my cd rips played from my computer's hard drive sound better than the cds played from the transports.

Sorry that's impossible if the same transport and CD!!!! was used to do the copy with, and both were using the same dac, and exactly the same digital link up to the dac. 

CD!!!'s are not the same here is the one and only album by these guys re-released over time.
 (red compressed) (green uncompressed) 
https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/year?artist=Traveling+Wilburys

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/year?artist=Bruce+Springsteen&album=Born+To+Run

Cheers George
 
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Streaming still sounds great but something natural about the red books now. To think I almost got rid of the discs!


Lucky boy.
A couple of members in our Audio Club had thousand + cd’s they collected from the start of CD. And then sold them all when they went to streaming, chopped and changed streamers for a year or so, and then in the end gave up on hiend audio altogether, and now have budget systems, and we don’t see them at the meetings anymore.

I believe this is the reason why, streaming is usually always the later (red compressed) re-releases

Only album they ever did.
https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/year?artist=Traveling+Wilburys

And the Boss.
https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/year?artist=Bruce+Springsteen&album=Born+To+Run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ&ab_channel=MattMayfieldMusic

Cheers George

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I disagree with slot loaders being rubbish.


Sorry but they are made for cars, 3in1’s, portables and computers with cheap Chinese lasers/motor assemblies etc
And they can put horizontal scratches right across the cd if there’s the smallest dust particles on the slot brushes.

Cheers George
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I added a fairly inexpensive CD transport to my DCS Rossini DAC/Clock and am shocked how much better it sounds spinning a disc vs streaming it.
https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2237249

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older CD transport vs newer ones
Stay away from slot loaders, they are just cheap rubbish.
Older Philips/Sony tray loaders were great, but!!!! some lasers are very expensive or impossible to find 
Cheers George   
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