One consideration is the age. Over time the suspension becomes a problem. So I’d be careful of cartridge over 8-10 yrs old. That cartridge is suspect to being too old and may have a stiff suspension. That may be the reason for the low price
Older Dynavector 17d2 mII vs 20x2l
I am curious how the Dynavector Karat 17d2 Mii is compared to other newer Dynavector cartridges like the 20x2L. I have an opportunity to get a 17d2 mii in amazing shape with a straight cantilever and an super sharp stylus. I know the cantilever of the 17d2 is unique and it is a several year old cartridge. I don’t have the opportunity to listen ahead of time so wondering what opinions were out there.
Not looking for a lecture on used cartridges I know the risks and the rewards as well!
Not looking for a lecture on used cartridges I know the risks and the rewards as well!
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Excellent cartridge with unique diamond cantilever. I love KARAT series and also have 17D2 mkII (NOS) and 17DS and 23RS. They are all amazing LOMC cartridges. Pictures are in my virtual system here. If you want a DIAMOND cantilever what else you can buy for reasonable price? I believe nothing else. Enjoy! Read this interview with Dynavector founder and designer. My old thread about Dynavector carts. P.S. Suspension is not a problem for KARAT series @artemus_5, if you never owner KARAT please do not comment about "problems" , I tried many and they are all perfect! |
@chakster is spot-on! The 17D2 is also a substantial step up from the 20X. If you have a rig that can take advantage of it, that's the way I'd go. If you could find one, the 23RS is even better, IMO. Always was very impressed with the slightly longer ruby cantilever design; just seemed to respond better. Good luck & happy listening! |
@artemus_5 Maybe you have to read what OP said, see below: Not looking for a lecture on used cartridges I know the risks and the rewards as well! If you have never owned a KARAT or a dozen of NOS vintage cartridges your comment below is just a suggestion, but in reality it’s not the case. At least I can confirm that out of maybe 100 different cartridges and different samples I have not seen more than a few with softened or stiff suspension (compliance is measurable with Test Record). Over time the suspension becomes a problem. So I’d be careful of cartridge over 8-10 yrs old. That cartridge is suspect to being too old and may have a stiff suspension. It depends on the material used by the manufacturer for the damper, but Dynavector just did it right. People like you have a fear of vintage cartridges, it’s strange that you called 8-10 y.o. cartridge "too old", it’s not even vintage. I have cartridges made in the 80’s and the suspension/damper is still perfect. Stiff suspension is a myth! On some modern hand made cartridges suspension collapse is a common problem, but it’s getting softer, not stiffer (if you don't store your cartridge in the freezer). ... suspension can be a problem with any cartridge .What makes the Karat different? |