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Ortofon 2MBronze; Quintet Red; Vivo Red???
I am trying to find the right cartridge for a Rega P3-24 turntable. Ortofon offers several choices in both MM and MC
The 2M Bronze is at the upper end of that MM series.($499)
There is a new low output MC, The "Quintet Red" reasonably priced at 299.00
Last the Ortofon Red Vivo (high output at mV 3.5) retails for approx. $350.00 and may be discontinued
This is small but confusing spread of phono cartridges. Has anyone had experience with one or all of the above mentioned in terms of overall sound quality. Thank you!!
The 2M Bronze is at the upper end of that MM series.($499)
There is a new low output MC, The "Quintet Red" reasonably priced at 299.00
Last the Ortofon Red Vivo (high output at mV 3.5) retails for approx. $350.00 and may be discontinued
This is small but confusing spread of phono cartridges. Has anyone had experience with one or all of the above mentioned in terms of overall sound quality. Thank you!!
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Johnny53, Thanks for the recommendationof the Exact 2. I have the P3-24 which came with a Elys 2 which got destroyed in transit to Hawaii. I then decided to take the plunge and buy a Dynavector 10X5. As I mentioned above, the Dyna was sold for both financial reasons and the misguided believe an MC wears faster than MM. I will check out the price on Exact 2 To Adam 18, You make a convincing argument for the Nagaoka MP150; however, it is an expensive cartridge. The lowest price I found was offered on Amazon at $325.00. However, the dealer seems unsure of its quality or its specs which makes me a bit gunshy to buy from him On the other side of the coin, either the Ortofon Quintet and (new) Audio Techinica AT-7 are very low outputs. I was highly reommended the Schitt Mani II phono pre-amp which is about $129 with a 30 day trial period. However way you look at it. The Ortfon plus the Schitt would be 379.00. assuming I can buy the Ortofon Quintet for 250.00; The ATF7 is about $225 discounted, so with the Schitt box the total would be $354.00 . So all three setup are between the $325 to $379 range which is more than I want to spend for my analog rig which I might sell, and the 20 LPs which I like very much. Thank you for the comments.. |
Really under the radar ..... but the Nagaoka MP-150 is a great match for the table and arm, and a fantastic value ! I had the Exact 2 on my P3-24 for quite a while, and when the cantilever snapped, it was time for a change. I listened to the Dyna 10x5, Ortofon 2M Bronze, ClearAudio Virtuoso Wood, and the Nagaoka. Bang for the buck, the Nagaoka simply sounded the best ! Check it out .... you may be pleasantly surprised. The Nagaoka does not have the "status" name of the others, but it certainly sings sweetly on the P3-24/RB 301 set-up. |
I have always been impressed with the synergy between a Rega 3-series turntable and the Rega Exact (now series 2) cartridge. It's a little more money than what you've mentioned, but it has this "rightness" on a wide variety of material, and although MM, is well regarded among high-priced LOMC enthusiasts, e.g., Jeff Dorgay of Tone Audio. You might find this thread enlightening from Steve Hoffman's website. |
Matt and Mofi. I had a Dynavector 10X5 for 5 years with moderate use. I sold it because I was fearful of ot getting it trashed in transit from Hawaii to the mainland. I also mistakeningly thought that an MC wear faster and so it was time to put it on selling block It provided very good sound over the course of my ownership. BTW, I also ran it for a while with a Musical Surroundings Phonmenon II phone pre-amp which provided greater overall smoothness. Nevertheless, I sold MSPII along with separates to make way for the Rogue Sphinx integrated amp wkich has only a MM stage. This MM stage's output was low and with the Dynavector, I had to jack up the volume to above 2 o'clock to get loud. Mofi, I am considering an AT 150MLX MM which is slightly used and on sale. However, this design cartridge engine is vintage 1997....and probably makes a difference when compared to the newer Ortofon 2M Bronze engine. The Bronze received only OK reviews compared to the less expensive models below, but also noted that it sounded better than the 2M Blue. Again, the issue is compatibility with the Rega arm; I was warned by several members that it would be a BAD MATCH with Denon 103R. Will take a look also at the new Clearaudio V2 MM which is about $300.00 (n0t the V2 Ebony which is about $1200 at retail.....way way above my pay scale Thanks to all who have respomded so far. |
Matt...with all due respect, the "right" cartridge is for "you", not for the tonearm. Yes, there are some carts and arms that have an incompatibility issue, but if you take 20 carts that will work on a given arm, you will likely have 20 different responses to the sound of those carts. Please don't get me wrong, I LOVE Dynavector carts, but to say that the 10X5 is the right cart for the Rega P3/24 is, well...just wrong. If it's right for you GREAT, but to make a blanket statement like is just irresponsible, By saying it's the RIGHT (your emphasis) cartridge, you are implying, it's the only cartridge. Let's just say the Dyna 10X5 is "one" of the carts to work well with this table, but there are many others. |
There really is no such thing as a "right" cartridge for any table or arm. Everyone has something different they are looking for. I have owned and sold and installed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of carts and they all sound different. I have a fully modified Rega P25 and have tried at least 40 different carts. One of my favorites, (that is currently installed) is the Audio Technica AT150MLX. The Dynavector carts are one of my favorite brands of carts, but on this table, none sounded as good as the AT. To answer the OP's question, out of the carts you have listed, I'd go with the Bronze. |
The RIGHT cartridge for the P3/24 with the RB301 tone arm is the Dynavector 10X5 ($450). This is a match made in heaven. Through much trial and error I have found this to be a awesome match. The Dynavector is a high output MC (2.5mv) and will work with many MM phono stages. I recommend a separate phono preamp from Musical Surroundings, if you need one. |