@mrdecibel Yes, that comment was not directed at you.
Push-pull Tube Amps and autoformers
I’ve gone and done it and decided to marry my 1.7i Maggies to mono Quicksilver M60s that only output 60w per. Crazy, I know. But the sound is sweet, and mellow for my jazz, though yes, at lower volumes, and they certainly do not allow the Maggies a full sprint, like with the Parasound A21+ that I can switch to (Luxman AS-55) when I want to throw-down serious dBs. But still, I would like a bit more punch from the QS. So, that led me to Paul Speltzer’s Zero Boxes. I talked with Paul (great guy to talk things through with), and he wasn’t certain that the “push-pull” QS would benefit from the Zeros, (because they were originally designed more for OTL amps like Atmospheres.) But, after talking it through awhile, we thought it worth the 60 day return trial period to see if the Zeros might help add that punch, if I use the 8 or 16 ohm taps. They arrive in a couple of weeks, so I’ll know soon enough. But, in the meantime, any of you have input, or experience with using autoformers (or auto transformers) with push-pull amps like QS? (Please give me a pass on bad speaker/amp impedance matching, ok? I knowingly signed-up for low-powered tubes for my 84db Maggies because others I trust on this forum have had good things to say about doing crazy sh-t like that. And, its just a trial. So, chime in gently, please.
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@mrdecibel Yes- talk to Steve McCormack of McCormack Audio.
No- its more for reducing the distortion of an amp driving a lower impedance. All amps make more distortion into lower impedances; the ear interprets this distortion as greater harshness and lack of detail. This is why low impedance speakers are not the best investment if you want to get the most out of your amplifier dollar investment. By increasing the load impedance on the amp, you get smoother and more detailed sound (because distortion is reduced). You might also get less power if the amp is solid state. I see the 3dB increase in power you get with 4 Ohms with a solid state amp as a rather weak rationalization since in high end audio, its usually about the presentation rather than the sound pressure. |
@mrdecibel The ZEROs can really help solid state amps sound better driving lower impedances- they aren't just for OTLs! |
@audiodidact I think the best way to use the ZEROs is to use the 16Ohm taps on your Quicksilvers if they have one. Then use the ratio on the ZEROs that seems to sound best. Keep the speaker cables as short as possible and as heavy as possible between the ZEROs and the speakers. You can use longer cables between the amps and ZEROs and they don't have to be so heavy. This might give you more bass extension since most output transformers become less efficient when using the lower impedance taps and they often lose low frequency bandwidth at the same time. You might also get less distortion- if so the system will sound less bloated, more relaxed and you might hear more detail. |