R2R Ladder DACs or All in One Streamer Solutions

Actually those classic cars do get trounced by modern designs in virtually every aspect. Acceleration, handling, top speed, fuel economy, rel world handling over uneven surfaces. You name it. It's not even close.

A classic car does not get "trounced" by a modern piece of junk. Indeed, it becomes "classic" not just because people are sentimental but because of design.

Look at something as simple as  Tesla Model-3 Dual Motor Performance. There isn't a standard production 911 pre-2010 that can beat it 0-60 or in the quarter mile. Those are relatively modern 911's, never mind Classic. Nothing front engine production even comes close due to lack of traction.

Modern performance production road cars are pushing 1.2g on road rated tires. In 1990, barely old enough to be a classic, the best production car hit 0.94g.

Today's base Mustang with the little 2.3 Ecoboost runs a 5.1 0-60, and with typical incentives that's off the lot for $25K + taxes.  In 2000, only the SVT Cobra could beat it and that was $55000 then, a lot more in today's dollars.

I can't think any measure that cars in the past were superior, except ease of repair, which was good, because you did that a whole lot more.

Correct, RedBook, 16/44, 24/96, or DXD, done with R2R Multibit and done right is "Bit Perfect", where DS (Delta Sigma, 1-Bit, Bit-Stream, Single Bit), is just a facsimile. But it does do DSD, but then there a few discrete R2R Multibit dacs out now that can also do DSD now.

They absolutely are not bit-perfect. They have non-linearities, settling time issues, flicker noise, etc.  They are just simpler to understand than sigma-delta. At the end of the day, all that matters is that the analog waveform that comes out looks like the one that went in.  Getting hung up on data converter architecture is silly unless you specifically want the artifacts that come with that technology.

To me the best Delta Sigma dac chip I’ve heard doing RedBook, was one that used a Delta Sigma Burr Brown dac chip in a YBA Dac and Shanling CD , but it was a Hybrid, having the first 4 bits as multibit but the rest taken over with Delta Sigma, that was the Burr Brown PCM1794 or 94 or 98?

It seems to me that TI (Texas Instruments/Burr Brown) with their later dacs "are coming about face" to R2R again and doing these 4 bit Hybrids, instead of their full Delta Sigma PCM1738 etc, as to do full R2R (eg PCM1702/1704etc) is going back to very high costs again because of the manufacturing of them eg: laser trimming all those R2R resistors.) Where doing 4 bit is not too expensive but gives increased sound quality.

The PCM1738 is a segmented DAC (TI Advanced Segment DAC) as has been probably almost every single IC based sigma delta converter for audio in the last 20 years. Using a multi-bit modulator allows for much better practical implementations of SD audio DACs.

Ok, do not know now? Was kind of liking my tubed MHDT Orchid. Maybe I should like? Maybe I should not? My ears are still deciding, for 4 months now. So far it is one of my favorites. My ears will decide. Enjoy!

Interesting piece of info posted by @decooney..."Formed in 2002: Music Heaven Development Team (MHDT)". Wondered what that acronym was. 

I can be passionate about technical details, but please understand I absolutely think personal preference (our ears) are the most important. It does not matter what I think or link, it matters what you like. However, I think it is important not to get caught up in the flavor of the month and let the "masses", or perhaps it is the "crowd" decide what currently you should "like".  That is why I point out that it was not too long ago that DACs based on the 1541 were not considered good, but suddenly they are again. Which is not to say you don't love your DAC, because you obviously do.  If I had to guess, it has little to do with the 1541, and a lot to do with the overall design, warts and all. Warts are good in audio.  We are working very hard to add warts to recorded music these days. People like warts.

jbmac7594 posts11-08-2020 8:52pmOk, do not know now? Was kind of liking my tubed MHDT Orchid. Maybe I should like? Maybe I should not? My ears are still deciding, for 4 months now. So far it is one of my favorites. My ears will decide. Enjoy!