Rogue Perseus Magnum / Bel Canto Ref1000

Have you considered getting a Rogue tube integrated and really consolidating your gear?

The thought did cross my mind... I actually live in the general vicinity of the Rogue factory and last year, pre-pandemic, I actually went down to the factory to get some new caps installed on the M-120s and got to give a listen to some of the integrated amps.  
The rogue integrated amps sounded excellent, however the main reason I am leaning solid state now is I’m hoping to get a bit more thump out of the gallos in the bass department.

parasound a23+

Hi avanti, do you have one? Impression?

Check output impedance specification of that specific tube pre-amp, but in general, you will likely be much better served with the ref1000m version of those amps ( BC added input stage, 100Kohm input impedance rather than 10Kohm with older ref1000 which is stock Icepower only) for good results with a tube pre-amp (higher output impedance than SS).

Good results meaning lower distortion which improves detail, dynamics, imaging, soundstage, the whole 9 yards!

I run Audio Research sp 16 tube pre-amp to BEl Canto ref1000m monoblock amps. That is a match made in heaven!

As a pre-caution, I would not use any SS amp with less than 40-60Kohm input impedance with any tube pre-amp.

There are other newer Class D amps out there that would likely provide that at prices more competitive with old ref1000. ref1000m used still tend to fetch a good resale price, possibly over $3K.

But I would worry first about getting the right impedance match between pre-amp and amp before cost. If that is not done right the cost of the amp will not matter. You will likely achieve well less than optimal performance.

@thecarpathian,

i have a parasoud a21+ which pairs really well with the rogue preamps, the new a23+ is similar in tone and also improved over the previous model.  it is my keeper amp.  
an alternative would be the rogue audio hydra but i have no experience with it.  

Check output impedance specification of that
specific tube pre-amp, but in general, you will likely be much better served with the ref1000m version of those amps ( BC added input stage, 100Kohm input impedance rather than 10Kohm with older ref1000 which is stock Icepower only) for good results with a tube pre-amp (higher output impedance than SS).

Good results meaning lower distortion which improves detail, dynamics, imaging, soundstage, the whole 9 yards!

I run Audio Research sp 16 tube pre-amp to BEl Canto ref1000m monoblock amps. That is a match made in heaven!

As a pre-caution, I would not use any SS amp with less than 40-60Kohm input impedance with any tube pre-amp.

There are other newer Class D amps out there that would likely provide that at prices more competitive with old ref1000. ref1000m used still tend to fetch a good resale price, possibly over $3K.

But I would worry first about getting the right impedance match between pre-amp and amp before cost. If that is not done right the cost of the amp will not matter. You will likely
achieve well less than optimal performance.

Excellent, thank you for the detailed response, much appreciated! I’ll make sure and check out the impedance before pulling the trigger.  
I also shot an email over to Rogue and they said it shouldn’t be an issue as well!