Rowland Model 6 monoblocks - my thoughts


I promised John (Jmcgrogan2), that I would share my thoughts on the Jeff Rowland Model 6 amps that I purchased from him. If you are interested...read on!

Some background: I have always been a tube guy. In fact this Rowland is my first solid state amp. From Conrad Johnson, Cary Audio, VTL, Audio Research, and Sonic Frontiers, I've had some damn fine tube gear in my house! As is so often the case with this hobby, I took a trip on the dreaded audio avalanche; buying, selling, trading, and testing various components. Each time, convincing myself that it just wasn't right. Always, that little voice kept pushing...just buy "Brand X" cable, or "Brand Y" isolation feet, and use "Brand Z" vintage tubes, and the sound will magically transport me to some sort cosmic neverland! Little could I appreciate, that I was probably already there. In short, audio-nervousa was getting the better of me, and I lost site of the goal: enjoying recorded music. I decided to take a step back from this madness and start over...SLOWLY...MORE BUDGET MINDED...NO GIMMICKS. This time I would do a better job of managing, balancing, and accepting compromise. And above all else, I would just enjoy the music.

So for the last five years, my simple and basic system consisted of:

*Conrad Johnson Premier 11A 70W tube amp
*Conrad Johnson PV 10B tube preamp with phono stage
*Electrocompaniet EMC-1 CD Player
*Technics SL1210 MK2 turntable that I've kept as a spare from my DJ years in case I get a hankering for vinyl. I Sold my SOTA, due to lack of use.
*Harbeth 7ES2 speakers
*Kimber Kable PBJ interconnects
*Speltz Anti-Cable speaker wire

A Sam Tellig or Harry Pearson reference system, the above components do not make. However, this time that wasn't my goal...I just wanted to listen to music instead of worrying about $3,000 speaker cables being the weakest link. And to my surprise what glorious music these components produced!!! Oh how I was finally moved. Beautiful imagery and staging. The components just seemed to disappear leaving me with music. In my small listening room, everything sounded good. Silky smooth and so easy on the ears. Several friends who moved from two channel into the home theatre world were astonished at my latest "house sound". Maybe my mindset was different this time; older and wiser? Possibly I was more relaxed and less fussy? Or, maybe this time I didn't listen with my wallet?! Whatever the case, I found my own slice of Nirvana.

HOWEVER, there were occasions when the wife and kids left me alone to my vices, with the opportunity to really "crank the volume knob". Here I thought the Harbeths might like a little more power...more headroom. Not that the CJ was ever clipping...perhaps the tubes were just borrowing from Peter to pay Paul, when asked to work their magic at full tilt with these speakers?!?

Enter Jeff Rowland Design Group. I have ALWAYS had a thing for the JRDG gear!!!! From my perspective, Rowland is a hands-on mad man always pushing the envelope with newer technologies and unusual circuit designs. Doing it a bit different as it were - right, wrong, or indifferent - his way. Show the guts of a Rowland to an Electrical Engineer, and the head scratching begins! All this with a beautiful packing job to boot! Years ago, I auditioned the Rowland Model 2, 75 watt stereo amp with Synergy preamp at a local hi-fi store. I was blown away and had a hard time believing that some tubes weren't being slipped in, some place. I remember that audition being very lively and punchy without annoying. In short, I never forgot it.

Enter the Model 6 monoblocks. Once the decision had been made for more power, I had my amp choices narrowed down to the CJ Premier 12 (140 watt monoblock version of my Premier 11A) or something from JRDG. Deep down, I felt it was time to roll with one of the "better" solid state amps...go for a total change as it were. Remembering my audition with the 75 watt Model 2, the Model 6 with it's 150 watts seemed like just the dish for me. The units I bought from Jmcgrogan2 had the black face plates, which was an added bonus; I felt that the all black would be less "bling bling" than the signature Rowland silver, and less likely to influence anyone that happened to be over for a listening session. The black blends in much better, and is more subtle. However, once you inspect them up close, you quickly realize that you're looking at something special. Black aluminum tanks!

Enter Model 6 sound. For some reason I was expecting more harshness, maybe some grain. Even though I was previously impressed with the Model 2, I just couldn't let go of this notion that solid state was the devil's work and would annoy me with shrill sounds. OH HOW WRONG, I WAS!!! All of that tube-lover smoothness is there. The best imagery I've EVER heard....and this is something my CJ excels at! There are times when I close my eyes and feel like I'm not even listening to a "stereo"!! It's all there only with much greater authority! Much more concert like. More stage like. This sound is very energetic and moving...and that tube like warmness that I'm so fond of is still there with just a touch more detail. And the louder it gets, the better!!!! I'm amazed at how much bass my Harbeths can deliver - these are not large speakers!!! But now I have this punchy bass slam that's accurate and controlled. And here's the clincher: at louder volumes, the Rowlands can present this deep bass without losing any of the mid range or upper registers. No more borrowing...no sacrificing one area to furnish another. They just keep delivering and reproducing what you throw at them until some other component breaks down...in my case it's probably my small room or the monitors! I never thought solid state amplification could give me the same hair raising experiences as my beloved tubes. Time to quickly step off the audio merry-go-round, yet again, and enjoy what I have.

Thanks For Reading,
Jeff
sand_man
Jeff, a big smile from me, I'm glad that you have found audio nirvana! Now the key is to just relax, and enjoy the tunes. Forget the glossy rags and internet raves. Yes, for many more $$$ you may do a little better, but in the long run, you have to ask yourself if it's really worth it. I know the law of diminushing returns hits early and hard, and sometimes I find myself wondering how I got in so deep.

If you're that thrilled with the sound, and it sounds like you are, just spend any extra $$$ on the software would be my reco. Kick back, turn it up and smile....

Cheers,
John
Excellent advice, John!!! Funny you mention that, I've recently gone through and purchased a whole bunch of new music that was on my "wish list" at Amazon!!! Yes, it's time to relax.

The only other time I was moved like this was when I was running Cary Audio 805 monoblocks with a Sonic Frontiers preamp. I should have stopped there, but I let a "friend" talk me into selling them...mayhem insued! This latest Rowland/Muse sytem, I think, has brought me even more enjoyment.

It's also been nice not fussing with tubes! Not that I ever had any trouble with my tube gear, it's just that added temptation of wondering what all those $$$$ vintage tubes might sound like!
Sorry for digging this one but as a new owner of a pair of Model 6's with BPS units, I'd like to know what are your thoughts on speaker recommendation?

I'm considering the following:

Apogee Duetta Sig refurbed with gaz new ribbons
Maggie 3.7
WA Sasha
WA W/P 8
Avalon Acoustics Indra

What are your opinions?

Any other suggestions?

Thank you

PS: Currently using Synergy IIi pre and SCD-1 as source (will probably invest in a PS PWD DAC or DCS DAC)
Tiff needle: I can't help on speaker selection, but I have to ask...where on earth does one find a pair of Model 6's? I had them 5 years ago and regret selling them for a pair of tube monoblocks. Congratulations.
Tiff Needle:

Congratulations on the Model 6's with batteries - they are superb amps. Jonathan Tinn, who is the U.S. distributor for darTZeel and a former Von Schweikert dealer, used to suggest Model 6's for Von Schweikerts if his customers couldn't afford darTZeel. The short answer is "any really good speaker" because the Model 6's are really good amps (like in "better sounding than most current production top-shelf solid-state amps").

As for general observations, I would have the batteries replaced in the BPS units so you don't have to worry about whether they are in good shape. I'll send you an e-mail with the battery information sent to me by Kelly Ballard of Rowland. Rowland buys them from Allied Electric in Ft. Worth and any decent tech can install them for you. The batteries are good for four to six years, depending upon usage. My experience with both Model 6's, which I owned for three years, and the Coherence II preamp, which I've owned for nine years, is that the Panasonic (Matsushita) batteries are the best quality.

In really good systems, the advantage of the batteries is that, despite reducing wattage somewhat, they actually give greater headroom because the noise floor remains much lower.

I strongly suggest that you leave the amp units powered up 24/7 instead of putting them into Standby. Standby cuts power to the output stage and exposes the output transistors to harmful thermal cycles. The amps also sound a lot better when left on 24/7.

Finally, my experience is that they sound really good when run without batteries, they are superb when run with batteries, and they sound best when run with batteries and fully differential balanced (you have a Synergy IIi, so balanced is possible for you).

I ran my Model 6's with Revel Salons (original version) - my Salon dealer thought highly enough of the Model 6's that he suggested them for the Salons, even though he wasn't a Rowland dealer. They are superb amps, especially with the battery power supplies - congratulations again.
I am a owner of a pair of these amps and have used them to drive usher rw729's and soundlab m2's;all I can say is they do everything extremely well and do not disappoint at any level.
I was just wondering where you found the bps units for them?
Thank you for you feedback.

I also have been considering the Saloons and cremona Sonus Faber... but with the saloons, beside the fact that they might be a bit big for my living room, I fear that the M6's don't have enough juice/damping factor to drive them.

As for Sonus faber as anyone tried them with Rowland electronics?

My room is 8m x 5m... What are your opinions?

Has for the BPS, I already bought the model six with the BPS units as a whole set.

I found out about this opportunity through here on audiogon.

Someone mentioned giving a call to a excellent fellow from Denver who is known to be a good supplier of Rowland material.

Turned out to be correct and luckily he had a client that wanted to trade in is model 6 + bps to get a brand new Model 625.

I was lucky. It's all about timing :)

The batteries have been replaced for new ones so I'll be operating on a fresh start.

My biggest quest is to find out the correct speakers for this magnificent set.

This weekend I'll be trying a pair of Sonus Faber from a friend of mine. Let's se how it goes.

I've already tried a pair of Amphion speakers but got a bit disappointed with the result.

Any advice from experimented users of model 6 amplification / synergy IIi would be very welcomed.

Cheers,

Tiff
No news?

No opinions?

What are you're thoughts on a pair of Sophia 3 or shahinian obelisk?
Tiff,
You may be better served starting a new post in the Speaker forum instead of asking a question about speakers in a 4 year old thread in the Amp Preamps forum.
Your speaker short list is all over the place regarding amplifier power. It's true that many will say these panels don't really need that much power. I've yet to see anybody downsize power with them.

During the Thanksgiving Holiday we visited an old friend who happens to be a Panel speaker freak. Quads, Maggie's, Apogee, Eminent, Soundlab, and lately he has an all Saunders system. I must say this is the first panel speaker system that I would consider. It's the first system he's had that doesn't sound like a panel and a sub. Aside from the speakers the Saunders Magtech amplifier is what really caught my ear. I don't know dick about panels but this is by far the only amp I would consider using with them.

For the dynamic speakers I would suggest greatly on a pair of used Avalon Eidolons, Visions, or Diamonds, which ever you can afford. I'm sure the Indra is nice, in fact there was a rare pair with Diamond tweeters that sold not to long ago. The Eidolon design is older and one of their most refined models.

I've had mine for six years now and they literally got me off the audio merry-go-round.