Should people with no turntable or reel to reel be considered audiophiles?


Just like those driving a Porsche SUV can join PCA (digital audio fans can join Audiogon) but are certainly not Porschephiles unless they also own a coupe (Panamera owners I guess gets a pass here).

Please respond with a yes or no and we'll tally a vote for the first 100 responses.

sokogear
Of course what we hear is subjective.....if you think it sounds better it does.

as far  As “more” information,think of the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. Which is more precise or has more information, 3.1417, or the symbol for pi? Records well recorded and pressed ones in good shape are pi. Or think of 1/9 or .1111111111111111111. I do believe in the real world and majored in engineering, not math, but certainly had to take lots of math classes. Turntables deliver infinite significant digits of information.
Lets make them Audiophiles as there are thousands of CD player and streaming people.
sokogear
Turntables deliver infinite significant digits of information.
No, they don't. That's why they're bandwidth-limited and have finite frequency response, dynamic range, and s/n.

I'm an analog guy at heart. But the notion that it is "continuous" or "infinite" while digital is sliced into a lot of little pieces is mistaken and easily shown to be false.

Your original post, in my mind, shows poor character. I can’t respect anyone who needs to create a divide between people in such a childish way.

The posts below shows that you don’t understand digital sampling/audio technology, but you are very good at repeating the tired talking points of other people who don’t understand technology either. I could go into all the ways that vinyl throws away information, and there are a lot of them, but I expect the lesson would be lost.

Do many so-called audiophiles truly appreciate high quality sound, or do they appreciate a certain "sound" that they label as high quality? The only absolute evaluation of high quality we could define would be how close it comes to an original live recorded instrument or voice. What is your experience w.r.t. hearing a live instrument then hearing that same recording on vinyl? tape? digital? .... I can tell you that high quality tape sounds pretty much exactly the same, other than a touch higher noise, than a high res digital recording. Listen closely, and the tape will have some anomalies that reveal itself as well. Hear the vinyl pressing and you will instantly pick it up as different and if you value accuracy of reproduction, I don’t mean that as different in a good way.

You like Vinyl. Nothing wrong with that, but it does not make you a better audiophile.


sokogear OP22 posts06-14-2020 11:58pmReduced information of vinyl???? Robertdid you must be kidding. Even oversampling can’t deliver all the information of a continuous information flow from a cartridge that is not sampled. It is a scientific fact. You can try to get there, and maybe come close, but you can’t get there.

An audiophile appreciates high quality sound and the never ending pursuit to improve it. I would say if you are not an audiophile, this forum is a waste of your time. Just about everyone’s posts seem to be coming from audiophiles.

If you don’t understand how vinyl is an important part of that, then just listen!