Small Office - Wilson vs B&W vs Kef


All hail the collective knowledge of Audiogon  - last time you talked me out of wasting money on upgrading my ceiling speakers (I ended up just buying a Sonos:Amp to power what I already had up there and called it a day).
So now with all of that money saved, I'm toying with the idea of replacing the stereo in my office. I won't even say what I have now (If it ain't got no highs... and it ain't got no lows...). Yeah, you get the gist.
The office is about 11' x 12' - I think this limits the size of the speakers that I'd like to put in there since I won't be sitting very far from the speakers.
Some contenders that I've been toying with:
  • B&W 805 D3
  • Kef Reference 1
  • Wilson Watt/Puppy
Amp is TBD, but I find those blue meters to be strangely attractive...
Thoughts on the selection? Any of these "too big" for my confined space?
Thanks!
eisenb11
I make my own loudspeakers, so I have 2 calibrated microphones. The issue with convolution are several.

I mean, by all means, go ahead and try it. The issues are in my mind that you cannot fix room acoustic issues such as reflection points from speaker output alone, measuring how we perceive sound in a non-anechoic field is hard, and lastly, most of us are just not that sensitive to the phase issues these systems purport to fix. All of these points are made better by Floyd Toole than me, but I’m in agreement. What I haven’t seen him do is complain about the CPU needed to execute them.

One critical point Toole makes, which convolution filters cannot solve, is that how we perceive sound is not how a microphone does. Dirac is one type of product that has some interesting techniques to address this, so if you are going with the hammer approach to using DSP, I’d suggest looking into DiracLive instead.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against EQ, I’m against expecting too much from them. Convolution filters are cute, and naive. In a heavily treated room with 1 listening location I am sure they’ll work fine. Dirac seems to have a much more sophisticated approach to how they calculate their filters and attempts to deal with the criticism Toole makes. Personally, I’m on the team of using room treatment plus a few carefully chosen filters to fix what I must, and I am extremely happy that way.

And lets not forget speaker dispersion.  Hsu and Klipsch make some small 2-ways with horn loaded tweeters which are probably going to sound a lot better in cramped spaces.
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Thanks all for the comments. Reading them in the background. After a little more research I agree that the Watt/Puppy is probably way to big for my 11x12 room. I hear the Wilson Duette is good, but those aesthetics aren't jiving with me.

Still like the 805D3. Love the 803D3 that I heard, but no way that's work in this tiny room.

Really like the idea of having a 3-way (Kef Ref 1) - more bass. Concerned however that my room might be too small still? Did some measuring - the back of the cabinet would be about 4-6" from the wall. Looks like that will require the long tube over the short tube...