smaller speakers for critical listening?


I'm curious whether folks out here think that standmount speakers can reward "critical listening." 

I know that may be a ridiculous question; of course one can sit down with Radio Shack speakers and engage in serious listening, and of course the experience is subjective for all of us. I'm actually asking for subjective responses here. If your goal is a system for critical listening, do you think smaller speakers can do the trick or do you need the bigger soundstage and depth that can come with floor-standing, planar, or electrostatic speakers? 

I'm not asking which is *better* in a given speaker line, the small ones or the big ones, and I'm not thinking about $50k Wilson-Benesch Endeavours or the like. Before the pandemic I auditioned some highly enjoyable standmount speakers in the $5k-$10k range. However, listening for an hour in a store, I couldn't tell whether they crossed the threshold from "terrific sound for a small speaker" to pull-up-a-chair-and-tune-out-the-world bliss.

As you can probably tell, I'm struggling with my room; it's very hard to place big speakers in it. Otherwise I'd buy Maggies or Vandersteens or JA Perspectives, etc, and be happy. And, to repeat, I know that the threshold for critical-listening speakers is subjective. I'm asking for opinions and experiences!
northman
IMHO: What small speakers do best is not mess up the bass. Anytime we try to get deep into the bottom 2 octaves of response the room interactions can be so detrimental as to make critical listening impossible. That and the small baffle width which reduces diffraction are the only 2 advantages to critical listening. I wrote two posts which may help you consider your choices:


https://speakermakersjourney.blogspot.com/2020/04/how-to-not-buy-subwoofer.html


https://speakermakersjourney.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-snr-1-room-response-and-roon.html
I haven't heard them yet but l wouldn't definitely audition a pair of Kef LS 50 meta powered monitors...  or the non powered...the last generation was hard to beat sound per dollar per size....
For small rooms and tight budgets mini's on stands are they way to go. Just add subwoofers down the line and things get very serious.
Roger's LS3 5A's are the classic. I like the Harbeth's. Have not heard the LS 50's. I'm not sure what "near field" means. You have the corners of an equilateral triangle. I like the base (distance between the speakers) a tad smaller. There are large triangles and there are small ones. The perspective should be the same. Instead of "near field" I think we should use the term "small triangle." I think it is obvious that a small triangle system does not require as much power and real estate as a big triangle system but at the listening position it should be as loud and sound like the big triangle system. The perspective is the same. Thus you can have the very same sound quality of a big dynamic system for much less money. What you won't get is the power and volume 30 feet away. Does that matter when you are in the listening position?
@erik_squires wrote: "Anytime we try to get deep into the bottom 2 octaves of response the room interactions can be so detrimental as to make critical listening impossible."

I agree with you that room interactions are the biggest issue in the bottom two octaves.

Imo there are much better options that throwing in the towel on critical listening. No, I’m not talking about the technique whose users you object to in your blog - our preferred approach is not practical for northman’s situation. I’m talking about adjustability in the bottom two octaves.

Without knowing specifics about the room and the constraints it’s hard to say what northman’s options are, but the Dutch & Dutch 8c suggested by djones51 will work well in a very wide variety of room and situations. Among other features, it has adjustability in the bottom two octaves.

Duke