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So Hard to Decide on an Amp

Hey,

So lately I have been thinking about getting an Amp and using my existing Vincent SV-500 Hybrid Integrated as a Pre-Amp.

I have inquired about some amps in other threads but it just seems so hard to decide as to what will have good Synergy with my system.

Wish I could try out all the Amps that I am thinking about but that would be quite difficult.

The one that is at the top of my list (mind you I haven't personally heard any of these, just going on reviews) is the Pass Labs XA25.

But am also considering the Parasound A21+ and A23+, Benchmark AHB2 and Mystere PA21.

All of have received good reviews and comments from folks.

I suppose the Parasound, especially the A21+ would provide the best Base Response but the others would also be quite worthy.

Tomorrow, I have a Technics SL-G700 SACD Player arriving and so I will be playing with that for a little bit to see if I like it (I am pretty confident I will). My current Denon DVD Bluray Player which I was using has been acting up and I decided it was time for an upgrade.

But soon after, I think I want to try an amp. Not that I really need it, the Vincent satisfies but I am just curious to what an Amp can bring to the table in my system.

Thanks

Jay
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hilde45
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OP, to add on to what others have said -- I want to second the idea that a sub might be a good idea. I auditioned the ML Motion 60s and their bass was fantastic, but the Motions could probably use a sub. You might reach out to Martin Logan for their opinion.

The other thing I would mention is that doing analysis on my room's EQ taught me what was missing and what was too loud; speaker and listening positioning helped a lot of that and brought sounds which were missing into existence without any change of gear. Beyond that, I bought some room treatments and now have a very balanced and full room. It stopped cold what could have been an endless chase for more gear.

To put it briefly, if you don't know how well your room is set up, you just cannot know what gear will be best to invest in.
lewm
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Given the complex and low-ish impedance curve of the M-L speakers, I first of all think you would be best off with solid state amplification, even though I personally use only OTL tube amplifiers to drive ESLs. Among SS amplifier designers, I think Nelson Pass is the most brilliant and innovative.  This predisposes me to suggest a Pass amplifier first of all.  Ayre is also a great brand with excellent, intelligent design.  Both of these companies make amplifiers that can optionally be driven in balanced mode, which is another plus.  I don't know what your budget is, and you really should state it, but otherwise you cannot go wrong with Pass or Ayre.
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atmasphere
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All competently designed amps of sufficient wattage and current, low noise and distortion, with low output impedance will sound like same - Peter Walker of Quad fame.
Funny thing- there were no such amps around when Peter made this comment.

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Why? Any amp employing feedback back in those days simply did not have enough (and gave feedback a bad reputation that has lasted to this day). Not only did they not have enough, at the time is wasn't even apply the amount of feedback needed, else the amp would oscillate. So most companies didn't do it, knowing full well there was a problem.


This gave solid state amps a reputation for being harsh and bright because that is the result of insufficient feedback. Quite literally that is why tubes are still around. I'd hardly call that 'competent' since feedback is all about control theory which has been well understood for a long time.

</rant>
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"...All competently designed amps of sufficient wattage and current, low noise and distortion, with low output impedance will sound like same..."

Julian Hirsch Lives! 
lewm
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Peter Walker notwithstanding, what is a Crown amplifier these days?
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