Solid states more accurate than tubes?


Ever since I changed speakers from a pair of Maggie's to Proac's, I find the tonal balance more accurate with a ss, especially acoustic wood instruments. Tubes seem to lack that tonal accuracy. I believe it's a more realistic and accurate rendering. Is that a fair assessment? I'm not arguing tubes don't sound good with it's rich, warm sound but just not as accurate. 
jaferd
Ralph,

What are some of the speakers that sound especially accurate and good with Atma-sphere OTL amps?  Some examples would be helpful to illustrate you're point.

I recall the sound of the AudioKinesis Jazz Modules with your S-30 amp - which sounded very accurate (don't know if it was, or not - but, it sounded like it).  

On the other hand... I think Harbeth's sound much better and more accurate with selected SS amps, which is one of the reasons why Harbeth uses amps like Hegels at shows.  

I have no idea what the engineering principals are that determine such "synergy" between the amp and speakers - but, it is "magical" when you find that combination.

Personally, I prefer tube sound over the SS gear I have listened to. But I have listened exhaustively to SS gear. I have all Aesthetix Eclipse models -Atlas, Janus, Romulus playing through new Raidho TD3.8s.  I've rolled low-noise NOS tubes (Tele & Amperex) to get the sound that I love. 

My only thought about using SS would be as separate phono pre, bypassing my Janus phono stage to lower the noise flow and to eliminate a low-level tube rush. I demo'd a new version Krell phono pre and really liked it.  Maybe the quietness of SS made me perceive the unit as presenting more accurate/detailed information.  

So as a follow-on question, which component benefits more from SS over tubes, or vice versa? 

  

Berning ZOTL amplifier apparently contradict that widely held, not always true tough, opinions about distorted sound tubes.....

I never listen to a ZOTL.... I only dream to buy one....

My post is only an invitation to read about an interesting new technology....

By the way i hate short life duration tubes with a slow degradation at a certain point in times, especially when they are very good sound, and i hate more the heating furnace of tubes amplifier....Nothing of that with the ZOTL technology tough.... Then.... I dream to have the best of the 2 worlds without their defects........

Berning is a physicist by the way.....He recreate tube tech from the beginning....And the price is not so high even for me someday....

I apologize to mimicking a marketing publicity.... But i dream a lot....And  has read a lot about that....
By the way the  real accuracy of a S.S. design or tubes design is not in the subjective impression of clarity or details, it is in the perception of the real tonal timbre of instrument and voices.....
 

Is the piano sounding like a real piano?

Timbre naturalness is ALL there is, those who want details can buy a microscope...

 :)


To mahgister - 

You post that "the real accuracy of a S.S. design or tubes design is not in the subjective impression of clarity or details, it is in the perception of the real tonal timbre of instrument and voices..... 

"Is the piano sounding like a real piano?"

What you post may be true in theory, but here again you are touching on whether one's system, ... from source signal input, starting with phono cartridge, CDP or whatever, is changed as the signal works its way through the electronics, and then is converted back into sound through the speakers.

I touched on the speaker point in an earlier post.  Let's assume that the electronics and the speakers are doing a good job of converting the electronic signal back into sound energy.  What about room affects?

One more point about speakers.  There have been a number of threads which discussed at great length time coherence.  Some speaker manufacturers have designed their speakers to be purportedly time coherent.  For example, Vandersteen, Green Mountain, and possibly Thiels.  Indeed, the late, great Roy Johnson of Green Mountain wrote a number of fascinating articles about time coherence and how high order cross-overs screw up the time coordination of the various drivers in a dynamic speaker system. 

According to time coherence enthusiasts, speakers that are not time coherent can affect whether a "piano sound[s] like a real piano."

So we end where we began.  Absolutely accurate and pure system tonality is an aspirational sonic utopia that can be attempted but is rarely achieved.  So, I say, if it sounds good, enjoy the fantasy.

Just my humble opinion.

BIF