Speaker wire is it science or psychology


I have had the pleasure of working with several audio design engineers. Audio has been both a hobby and occupation for them. I know the engineer that taught Bob Carver how a transistor works. He keeps a file on silly HiFi fads. He like my other friends considers exotic speaker wire to be non-sense. What do you think? Does anyone have any nummeric or even theoretical information that defends the position that speaker wires sound different? I'm talking real science not just saying buzz words like dialectric, skin effect capacitance or inductance.
stevemj

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Allow me to tell you a short story, my non-audiophile friend listens to my stereo all of the time and I do not tell him about upgrades because it is like talking to a roof shingle. Well I upgraded to silver cables and I of course did not tell him, well to make a short story even shorter he asked me if I had replaced drivers or amps or something major because he noticed a big improvement in sound, as did I.
You asked for and I finally found it(it took a while for me to find but I knew I had it). A scientific study that proves not only that there are MEASUREABLE differences between ALL cables, read it and weap. Check out Hi-Fi News & Record Review Febuary 1997 there is a very impressive camparsion of 11 cables (including generic PVC insulated 1mmsquared CSA stranded, 'tinned' copper wire which is a twisted pair. In the test the measure R-L-C data, audio precision DSCT3RES compared to frequency response and dynamic suppression error at various frequencies; I hope that is enough "Scientific" proof for you. Get a hold of Hi-Fi News at 1-800-875-2997 or write to:
Hi-Fi News & Record Review
PO Box 3000
Denville NJ 07834
or you may even try getting a hold of Kimber Kable seeing as there cable 'won' the comparison they may have a copy or two lieing around. Now I hope this is enough proof that cables do sound different Stevemj so stop preaching zip cord fables and look at the facts and not audio myth. Feel free to ask any question about the article you would like I have it right in front of me, it took me a while to find it but it is out there. That's that :>)TIREGUY I RULE!!!!!
It is hard to say what gauge wire because this magizine comes from the UK and they use mm2 to determine what we call gauge. Most of the wires used it does not tell gauge and also it is hard to make out how long the cables where(it is shown in a smallish box entitled Fig. (3) Test Set up) but if I had to guess on what I can see I would say 5.6m. Most of the cables sort of spiked at 1.00k or so and sort of tapered off toward 11.0k some nearly vanishing off of the graph before the 11.0k mark and some had wierd peaks and valleys. I hope this answers your question a little bit also there are some references listed you may be interested in looking into them:
1.)"The Essex Echo" by Malcolm Hawksford found HFN/RR, Aug '85, Oct '86 and Feb '87
2.)"Speaker cables: Case proven" by Ben Duncan, Proc. Institute of Acoustics, Nov 1995 Also published in Studio Sound (UK) and Stereophile (USA), Dec 1995
3.)"Effects of cable, loudspeaker and amplifier interactions", By Fred E Davies, JAES June 1991
4.)"Black Box" by Ben Duncan, HFN/RR, March 1996
5.)The Genesis Report, QED. tel 01276 451166 this document is low on rigour and is filled with punctuation and spelling errors, but contain creative ideas on demonstrating cable effects.

I hope this will help you on your quest for the "Truth"

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Don't worry stevemj this thread will be going strong when the magizine arives but it may be hard to find my posts because in 3-4 weeks there is likely to be 3000 responses.
Best of luck on your quest for the truth, Tim