Speakers to alleviate room anomolies

Agreed with Rhljazz... Vandersteens have the ability to closely match the room. It works very well when you have a Vandersteen dealer set them up. They use a mike and a special CD to adjust the various pots built into the speakers's amps.

Your suckout is pretty precisely cenetered on the fundamental of a kick drum - just kinda BAD LUCK - so it probably feels more pronounced than it might otherwise. The only thing IME that will address this type of issue (below 80ish hz) is EQ, like the room corrected Velodyne DDs or perhaps the adjustable Vandys.

If the idea is to keep the DDs (probably a very good idea), than you've got a ton of choices. I use Ohm 100s (omni) and sometimes Maggie MMGs (planar). But, honestly, any speaker with limited low end response will likely work well with the DD and provide the smaller cabinet you seek. Smaller VS might make sense if you like your VR7s, but want a smaller box.

Good Luck

Marty

Room effects dominate in the bass region, and the peak-and-dip pattern is a function of room dimensions (and damping), source location, and listener location. In other words, move the bass source(s) and/or the listener and you re-arrange the peak-and-dip pattern.

One solution is to have as many bass sources as is practical, and have them spread asymmetrically as far apart as is practical. This way each bass source interacts with the room differently, producing a unique peak-and-dip pattern at any given listening position, and the sum of these dissimilar peak-and-dip patterns will be smoother than any one of them no matter how optimally placed. And if you want smooth bass over a large listening area, this technique is more effective than equalization (it is arguably more effective than equalization for a single sweet-spot as well, based on comments from people who have tried both).

If I understand correctly, by adding the Velodyne you now have three bass sources in the room, so that might be the reason why it smoothed out the bass for you. If you keep the Velodyne and go with small speakers that don't contribute much in the bass region, you may well end up back where you started.

In my opinon the theoretical ideal is multiple subwoofers scattered around the room, and they can be fairly small. In this scenario the main speakers don't need to carry the deep bass, so they can be smaller... but for aesthetic reasons few people find it practical to go the multisub route.

Duke
dealer/manufacturer

Duke with the posters question in your opinion would you still play full range on the main speakers or cutoff the lows and direct them to the subs;I would think this would be the correct choice but I thought I would see what you thought.

Adding the subwoofer did correct the problem. It doesn't seem right having a huge expensive main speaker not doing the job.There are 2 twelve in woofers on each side not providing punch.I also thought I didn't have enough power to drive the woofers on the VR7's but all my other main speakers[Dunlavy 5] seem to have the same bass shy charateristics. Its time I get Duke here to figure this out.