cleeds,
Let's agree to disagree, once you have acknowledged the following:
(1) Our disagreement is NOT about the degree of difference in VTF caused by a warp or whatever. I have written twice already that I agree the difference is "small" (if we're talking about LP thicknesses). I thought we were arguing over your statement in response to someone else, to the effect that VTF would not change AT ALL when the stylus traverses a warp, because (you said) gravity is a constant, etc. I of course agree that gravity is a constant, but you failed to take into account that raising the tonearm up above the horizontal, as happens when playing a warp, does change VTF, because it changes the geometry and introduces a force vector that is not directed downward, perpendicular to the LP surface. That small force vector subtracts from the effect of gravity to pull the cartridge down on the LP, reducing the effective VTF. And talk to Einstein or any other theoretical physicist, if you cannot abide thought experiments. Based on the limits you want to set on logical arguments, we would still believe in a flat earth.
I notice now that you have changed your tune; you now say that the "thickness of an LP" has a "trivial" effect on VTF. At least you agree that a thick vs thin LP or a warp would have SOME effect on VTF. And I am telling you why it would.
(2) The bit about Dynamic VTF. You are confusing me with someone else (whom I respect) who commented that tonearms with dynamic VTF would be less subject to variation in VTF on warped LPs. In fact, I think you're misquoting him, but go argue with that guy.
Let's agree to disagree, once you have acknowledged the following:
(1) Our disagreement is NOT about the degree of difference in VTF caused by a warp or whatever. I have written twice already that I agree the difference is "small" (if we're talking about LP thicknesses). I thought we were arguing over your statement in response to someone else, to the effect that VTF would not change AT ALL when the stylus traverses a warp, because (you said) gravity is a constant, etc. I of course agree that gravity is a constant, but you failed to take into account that raising the tonearm up above the horizontal, as happens when playing a warp, does change VTF, because it changes the geometry and introduces a force vector that is not directed downward, perpendicular to the LP surface. That small force vector subtracts from the effect of gravity to pull the cartridge down on the LP, reducing the effective VTF. And talk to Einstein or any other theoretical physicist, if you cannot abide thought experiments. Based on the limits you want to set on logical arguments, we would still believe in a flat earth.
I notice now that you have changed your tune; you now say that the "thickness of an LP" has a "trivial" effect on VTF. At least you agree that a thick vs thin LP or a warp would have SOME effect on VTF. And I am telling you why it would.
(2) The bit about Dynamic VTF. You are confusing me with someone else (whom I respect) who commented that tonearms with dynamic VTF would be less subject to variation in VTF on warped LPs. In fact, I think you're misquoting him, but go argue with that guy.