Subwoofer Advice


I am running a pair of Martin Logan ESL 13A speakers (24-23,000 Hz). I would have thought with two 10" woofers there would be more bas (the base level dial on the rear of the speakers doesn’t seem to cut it either).

In the past I had a pair of ML Spires (29-23,000 Hz) with only one 10" woofer that had so much base, I sold my pair of ForceField 30s. Not the case with the 13A’s.

I don’t have a lot of room, maybe 16" or so square and I was wondering about a pair of SVS Micros. Do you think they would complement the 13As or do I need something bigger?

Martin Logan has come out with a few new subs lately; do you think I should keep in the ML family?

Hoping to come in under $2K, so used is fine. Thanks all!

I should also mention I’m limited on space so placement would likely have to be on the inside or the outside of the main speakers (same back wall).

 

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I have 2 REL S/510 subs.  They are wireless so there is a lot of freedom on placement (just needs AC).  Putting them near the back corners of the room away from the main speakers was best for me.  Very rarely one of the wireless connection may drop and I immediately notice something is off.  Two subs are synergistic.

@rikkipuu Hmm, wireless? That's interesting.

Are they easy to set up, do they come with some kind of software, or do you do the "Crawl"?

@navyachts I'm not trying to shill for SVS, I promise, but the 3000 Micro can be remotely adjusted using an app on your phone or tablet.  SVS also provides wireless options if you don't want to run cables.  I recommend connecting with cables if you can.

@big_greg thanks! I’m just trying to figure out my cabling first. I have 1/2 dozen BJC subwoofer cables, none of are the correct length. I will need to run 4 cables (two 8 footers & two 12 footers) from my preamp on the side wall, all around the corner to the subs that will probably be between the power amp and the speakers. BJC is closed until Tuesday and will “negotiate” with them then. Maybe I should make the cables longer though, they might sound  better on the outside of the speakers?

@rikkipuu said that his subs sounded better in the back corner of the room. I could try them wirelessly there and if they sounded better, I could start drilling holes in the walls, floors, etc.

Anyways, need some time to save up! Daughters in the last year of law school and she’s running out of money!!

By the way, have you ever played around with DSP?

I never got to the crawl.  It just added so much where I had them I was satisfied.  There is a simple volume knob and a crossover frequency knob on the back.  Bit of trial and error until I found the best sound.

Keeping them out of site and harms way makes me like them more.

REL sells a wireless transceiver to use with the speakers.  I use the XLR hot connection as recommended.

https://rel.net/shop/accessories/airship-ii/