Subwoofer

It is our crying Woolfy again. I guess you still use your "old' Rel 150 subwoofer.

 In audio the most convincing sound always will win. It is not 6 years, but 18 years of sales experience. The biggest difference compared to all my collegues is that I have done a lot a research in those 18 years of time. And still do. Most people who work in audio seldom do any research in audio.

You can put me down on record saying REL and MJ acoustics do very competent subs. The relevant point of cone break up was brought up. That can be one of paper's disadvantages if your like me and push your systems too hard at times. This is another reason multiple subs are a good idea, not only with paper. Not only will multiples make it easier to obtain fuller bass and a flatter response but you wont have to push two quite as hard to get closer to desired DB levels. There are usually compromises everywhere. As with EQ'ed sealed boxes and box ring. Yet another reason to have multiple subs in your set up. The more the merrier. I switched things around a little bit this morning and connected my two JBL subs, they can take a little more abuse. Come to think of it, those happen to have paper cones too. Coincidence, probably not ;).        

I don't think a decent subwoofer is ever too slow. Perhaps what people are hearing is a maladjustment (x-over or sub volume set too high) or simply improper sub placement.

I won't even run my desktop system without a sub because even though I paid 1k for those stand-mounts, pure, deep lows that I can feel (ever heard live music?) are not in their wheelhouse. 

I finally got my Rel T/5i sub set.up with my Sonus Faber Guarneri Evolution monitors. The sub is crossed over at a little below 40Hz.  Using my spl meter I verified that I am getting pretty flat response from 100Hz down to 20Hz!  I am completely satisfied with how my setup sounds with the sub.  I didn't realize how much low freq information I was missing.  My only complaint is waiting so long!   Now I wonder if adding another one would improve things even more?  

These settings we used 15 years ago with Rel subwoofers as well. Because you cannot use them a lot higher.

I can garantee you 100% that this is inferior compared to using a subwoofer till 120hz.

Rel you cannot use it this high, because I had clients with new Rel subwoofers who were not able to be set till 120hz

I would never recommand a subwoofer what can be set to max 80hz. When I compared a subwoofer what is able to be used till 120hz, they directly sold their Rel.

The rule in audio is; at the end each person will choose for the best endresult. That is why you need to show people the limitations of their subwoofer.

What do you want to hear......the truth or the thing you would like to hear......

In audio there are still a lot of people who want to hear what they want to hear. These I cannot help!