Thankyou Tsushimal, That was a great read, I enjoy learning of the attempts of other cable company's out there to try to better the Tara labs Retangular conductors that are pure mono-crystal eight-nines super annealed, did you read my post 10-2-14 of the new Tara labs generation 3 conductors?,It's called, making since of generation 3 coductors, I get the info of Tara labs from their web-site are by E-mail from Tara labs, they send me answers to my questions about their cables, what do you use for cables?, do you mix, run a full loom?, there is many good brands out there, this is really all system dependent anyway, cheers.