The Devil is in the Cartridge Setup (and a good phone pre)...


I had a freak out moment--or shall I say 2 days because that's how long it went on. 

I've been on these forums posting various things, noting my vinyl bested my digital and that's why I'm looking to figure out how to up my digital front end.  Well, my vinyl end became harsher, dirtier and grainier.  That's the best that I can do. 

No wait....I can say this.  I listen to tons of stuff and I use Norah Jones albums as a reference.  I know she should sound sweet, centered and pure.  I was tube rolling, re-positioning speakers and not able to roll things back. 

I recently "upgraded" two dirt cheap Texas Instruments op amps in my Manley Chinook to Burr Brown models, which had way better specs.  Could it be that BB op amps weren't doing the trick and causing the dry, dirty vinyl? 

After several days, I went back through my cartridge alignment and settings.  What I found was all was fine and dandy on positioning due to using a Feickert protractor, BUT I recently pumped up the tracking force to the upper limit, 2.0 grams, for the cart (AudioTechnica ART9).  I moved it back down to the minimal setting, 1.6 grams.  All is good. 

Maybe the cart's suspension wears over time and less force or weight is needed. I don't know.  

Phew.  I'm back in vinyl nirvana.  I was wondering if I needed different gear, meds, etc. to get back to where I once was happy.  

PS  And yes, the op amp "upgrade" made less difference than just setting my cart to where it sounds best. 
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I see this happening more and more often in this forum.  It's getting more and more petty, and the personal attacks are getting out of hand.  OP came in to share his experience, which I found interesting.  I'd like to hear more about the changes due to the OpAmp in the Chinook.  We all make mistakes... kudos to the OP for being man enough to share his mistake.

And, I'd like to hear far FAR less of people calling each other fools (or much worse that I've seen), even if it's prefaced with "all due respect".  Frankly, any time you start with "all due respect", you are about to be disrespectful and you know it.

These kinds of trolls are making the forum less and less fun for me.  Can't we just get back to sharing experiences and stop verbally assaulting one another? Every thread seems to devolve into this kind of drivel after 5 to 10 posts.  Look at the archives, and it wasn't this way in the past.
JBHiller.....her first couple of record albums are good....the last are pretty bad. I think that her producer was after a new sound..(junky) Can hardly understand the lyrics. Her producer was Danger Mouse (I heard they’re an item)....I point the finger to him
The American philosopher D. Davidson wrote an article with
the title ''What  metaphors mean''. The problem with Davidson
like by his 'mentor' Wittgenstein is that they have no theory but what
one would call ''philosophical remarks''. Wittgenstein ''Philosophical
investigations'' are illustration . After remark nr. 1000 one lost or
forget 980 other because an normal person can't remember more than, say, 20. No wonder then that the question ''what are both works
about''? is impossible to answer. According to Davidson metaphors have ''ordinary mening'' or no meaning at all.
So what is the meaning of ''the devil in connection with details''?
To me it means a warning against ''easy statements'' by which
many or some details are overlooked. We can, I think, agree that
''our'' J. Carr knows all the details involved by  cartridge design. 
But this does not apply for the most other members of our forum.
Consider the fact about ''primary fear'' by cartridges regarding
the stylus condition. According to J.Carr this is the least serious
issue by carts because stylus (only) retip will not change the
performance of the cart more than cantilever or suspension
change. Consider suspension change. How many of those can
any retip service get from their supplier and in what quality?
EMT for example has for years as ''achilles tendon'' the suspension.
If an producer is not able to solve such a problem way should 
an retipper do better? I want mention coils because there is
hardly any retipper capable to repair those. But those are ''the
details involved'' among other.  




@soundermn 
I agree. And I thank you for chiming in. 

I have a fairly thick thick skin but the tone and message of folks’ responses more frequently makes me think twice about posting in the first place. I’ve experienced this a lot recently.  

Im really thinking of switching to a different forum. 

When I built stuff DIY, I’ve used those type of forums to better success. People there are kind, helpful and there’s a real sense of unity.  People there treat others like members of a special club. I’ve never received criticism or snarky remarks.  And it’s rare that the OP’s thread gets off topic.  
On the issue of modifying gear...

i used to shy shy away from it for many common reasons.  Once I did a couple of more significant DIY builds, I learned so much about manufacturers’ choices.  It’s really rare that they use as good of stuff throughout the whole build even in what I consider expensive or regarded products. 

For example, my Primaluna integrated has only two nice but not top end Mundorf caps hooked to the preamp tubes.  But the rest of the product is laden with Duroch caps that I think are SCR caps rebadged.   I’m not going to say SCR caps are junk yet better caps throughout has the real potential to affect sound in a detectable way than does the use of crazy expensive cords or cables. I know that firsthand at least to my ears.  

Putting the the issue of resale aside, I would have spent another $300 on caps if I were making the Primaluna myself.  I may also have paid more for them on new purchase as an option. This is not a big deal.  It is worth noting.  

I bet bet many of the golden ears out there who spend real money on cabling or tubes could appreciate the addition of a Jupiter cap or great Mundorf just as they can hear a $600 power cord, which I sometimes can and sometimes can not justify even if I can. 

I highly recommend to folks buying an Elekit amp to build.  It’s like painting by number and when you do it you can try your hand at easily swapping caps or buying better resistors.  You don’t need much skill. Just a soldering iron and watch YouTube instructional videos if you want to know how to solder. I’d bet money that many people would find that a $600 kit amp sounds better than some stuff costing thousands.