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The issue of lowballing... What does that mean?

I LOVE Audiogon. I have purchased and sold many items here and it is a wonderful resource for audio nuts of every variety. Big solid state, tubes, analog, vinyl? Sure it all goes.

So I see posts that are make offer but the seller says "lowballers" will be ignored, vilified, cursed and cussed. So why have a make offer sale? Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. It doesn't matter what you paid for it, or how much you love it. And why be upset? Declining requires one mouse click. Countering maybe five or six clicks or keystrokes. Just curious as this is a commerce site.

I have received offers that seemed really low to me, but I am still happy to have interest and I always counter offer. I recently sold a Clearaudio TT for a lot less than I thought it was worth. But all the offers were low and I had to rethink my view. It ultimately sold as a real bargin but I'm happy and so is the buyer.

Your thoughts?
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ziff
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Well there it is...the inevitable rude and nasty prejudice that has no business being in this forum or anywhere else. Please go crawl back in your hole or where ever you came from and let the people here enjoy a quality environment. 
I've been an active member on Audiogon since 2001 but this is one reason I've never been too involved in the discussions. Sad. 


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mapman
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ml8764ag
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Ziff...
Well... he’s got a point... most, if not all, maybe EVERY single one, of my ridiculous  low ball offers have seemed to come come from a characteristic of last names, mostly from California (and NO, It’s not Spanish speaking people, the’re awesome!) ....maybe you’re so open minded...you’re oblivious.... liberal guilt at its finest.

That’s what’s wrecking this country...the inability to tell it like it is. Other cultures laugh at our political correctness. Grow a pair! I think you need to stay out of the proverbial kitchen if you are so easily offended.

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maplegrovemusic
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certain cultures are into that sort of thing . Nothing wrong with stating facts . Not racist at all . If we want to join those culture in the haggle game everyone will have to raise their prices to eventually get to the same price . Why bother ? not fun to me ? some get a kick out of it . Dot need the thrill when buying and selling 
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jedinite24
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IMO I think there is a generation that has the mentality of "The worst they can say is No." so they will just ask away without any care in the world. Then there are the jaded folk who lost money on their gear and now won’t ever pay anything close to full price ever again.

As for ethnicity and lowballing. I have been lowballed by pretty much everyone through the years now that I think of it. Young, old, white, black, brown, yellow and everything in between. Lowballing isn’t based on skin color IMO. Also agree with the point above that there are a lot of different cultures where haggling and getting a deal is commonplace as well as not giving anyone a deal either. Well I'm beginning to toughen up again but still working on not getting as angry. I listed a $700 item on another site and the price was more than comparable to similar items and I get a serious offer of $100. Deleted the message and blocked the schmuck.

Thanks again everyone.
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