Thinking about going electrostatic


Got that itch for speakers again I have a pair of Joseph audio pulsar and a pair of talon khorus.  I like both but now thinking about martin logan my budget is 3 to maybe 4500 I would look for a used pair can't afford new not to concern about bass I have a talon roc sub. Speakers would be powered with a rotel 1090 and prima luna dialogue pre amp. Have never herd of that type of speaker. Would like to here your thoughts 

bill1957

I started as a fan with Acoustat and had planar for decades. I have always loved Martin Logan. Great sounding speakers. Despite their faults they can be great fun (lack of coherence across the audio spectrum and a bit artificial space). ML has done a good job of making up for missing bass as in Quads. You will likely really enjoy them.

Bill,  I have run ML Vista's for over 10 years now.  At one point I had 3 Vista's across the front (Left/Right/Center) and Scenerio's for rear in a surround sound setup. Powered by Classe or Parasound amps.

You indicated that you have never heard them before, so I highly recommend that you audition a set of electrostatics before purchasing.  It always seems that people either love them or hate them.  (Personnally, I love them.)

So, in general, for electrostatics...

The Good:  

Treble and Midrange are hard to beat.  Fast response time, clear and precise.  They have a level of transparency that few other types of speakers can match. If setup right in the room, soundstage depth and imaging are hard to beat.  And not only left to right, but being a diapole speaker, I have managed to even get a sense of height to the imaging.  Very easy to get lost in the music.  Great for either nearfield or distance listening.  And depending on the type of music you listen to, they can be great fun.

The Bad:

You have to setup placement properly. Distance and toe in are important, but not difficult to achieve.

As a dipole speaker, you also have to make sure you have the wall behind the speaker treated with some (and I stress SOME) absorbation or diffusion wall treatments. 

As mentioned, there is a bit of a timing/coherence between the panels and cone woofer, but I was able to get over that easily.  

Lastly, as with all planar speaker, there are limits with handling high dynamic changes.  The membrane can only move but so much air.

The Ugly:

They want power and CURRENT.  Impediance can drop to below 1 ohm in some models, as you go up in frequency.  So you need an amp that can handle it.  I think the Rotel 1090 would be able to handle it, but you may find you need a bit more grunt.  Most tube amps are going to struggle with it, especially at higher volumes.

And finally, as with most planar speakers, there is a small sweet spot for listening.  Some will call it beaming, and when you get off axis the treble and midrange drop away very quickly.  ML eases some of that by using a curved panel, but it doesn't eliminate it all together.

Your bio doesn't list where you are located.  I'm in southwestern Virginia.  If you are anywhere close, I maybe able to arrange a demo.  If not, check the martinloganowners.com web site and see if someone else is close and willing.

Hope this helps.

- Jeff

 

Speaker preferences are so very subjective, only you can determine through trial and error whether or not you'll like Electrostatic speakers.  Go listen to a pair.  If you like them, buy them.  Happy listening.   

Another longtime ML stat user here. I have the Impressions (11a) and I listen to them for literally hours on end, no fatigue or anything like that. I'm driving them with a Classe amplifier which has served me well. 

Having said that, you should definitely take some time with a pair to make sure it's the sound you are looking for. They do not move air in the same manner as dynamic transducers.

I agree with @kennymacc....you’re the only one who can make that decision, but you’ll likely need to try them in your space to see. They can be pretty sensitive about placement, room, and the rest of the signal chain. All part of the fun!

Any concerns about the Rotel being up to the task of driving electrostats without being a weak link?  I know they have gobs of power, but the MLs will be brutally revealing.