Tidal Speakers owners

I can fully appreciate the enthusiasm but when I start reading an indivual writing;

"'drive' these speakers as good or better then most every amp known....at any cost."

How do you know this? I doubt you have heard every amp with your speakers so your credibility really lacks writing such.

"why don't you read the review"

Are you serious? that's one person opinion and this reviewer did not have every amp combo within to hear. Has anyone even heard this specific set-up or any others the reviewer speaks of, maybe his set-ups suck. Individuals who seem to back up their purchase due to a review has always left me scratching my head and laughing.

It's greeat that you are enjoying your amps but give me a break.

Looking at these amps I'm still left scratching my head due to the cost being $80K, for what.

My Vac's are the same cost and they even left me scratching my head saying this absolutely rediculous but to me they look more substantial.

With so much money invested in gear I was shocked when I viewed your set-up, you may want to make some adjustments because it's the weakest link right now. In general having a designated room so you can truely hear the potential would be best. Looking at your picks that large wall unit in the middle of your speakers in general with the glass and tv alcove is just really bad, the large table in front of your speakers with a glass top is another no no and shocked that you would not know this.

I have my set-up currently in a living rm space which isn't ideal either and have always known it being the weak link but is night and day from yours but still know a designated room would be the way to go which I'm currently designing.

Some suggestions; if this is your only room I would recomend you get rid of the wall unit, if this is your only tv viewing area install a plasma on the wall, install a low component stand system "max 3 shelves high" HRS for example makes a nice one. Get rid of the big table out front.

P.S. Let up on the implying "BEST" because there is no best just different.

Enjoy!

Argyro, I think 50 watts from a tube amp can be very powerful, but I certainly agree with your statement, "Actually you never understand when a speaker is underdriven until you hear it properly driven!" I certainly have not had the opportunity to hear all the amps you have, however. All that I can really say is that my Contrivas Dicera SEs have responded well to the power of the BMC M1's and clearly revealed slight tweaks in my system, including putting the StillPoints Ultra SSs under them.

dev...your points are well taken...i have not..as you so correctly point out, heard every amp. i have been a little over enthusiastic during these last few posts..i apologize if i have pissed anyone off..my room...unfortunately, 'is what it is'. i did do alot of homework and legwork prior to making the decision to purchase the 'grails'..i am very OCD. prior to the grails i had a Goldmund 29M. the 'grails' are better in every way.i can probably chalk-up my rants to 'separation anxiety' as i have not had the amps for 4 weeks as they are away getting some minor upgrades accomplished...i have a new i/c and a new powerconditioner to try out when they get back...again..sorry for anything i may have said that ruffled any feathers

Calloway, I don't believe there is a need to apologize.

Some times the passion can just take over, it's great that you post your findings because it offers options.

Your room; what I recommended honestly give it some thought because it would be a large improvement.

Enjoy!

I think keith`s review is relsvant, who would know the needs of Tidal speakers better than the builder. Presumably his ampshould be an ideal stablemate.
The VAC 450 Statement monoblock vs the Chalice Grail driving Tidals would be very interesting to say the least.

The Grails weigh 150 pounds per side for a reason,lots of ultra -heavy duty top quality chokes and transformers. I`d go out of my way for the chance to hear these two fine amps driving the same speakers.