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Time for a new turntable......

I need some suggestions or opinions from some of you analog lovers out there. I am ready to upgrade my analog front end. At the present time I have a Denon 47F, Grado Sonata cartridge, and Lehmann Black Cube. I can get a great deal on a Basis 1400 w/ Rega 300 tonearm and another Grado Sonata. I was giving the opportunity to have the Basis in my system already and did an A/B comparison with my Denon. The Basis was better but my Denon held up surprisingly well. The Basis had a blacker background and the noise level was lower. Now, with all that being said I have been doing some research and looked into the Teres Turntable. These are very sharp looking turntables and the owners seem to think very highly of them. A lot of owners also seem to be using this turntable with the Origin upgraded arm. My question for you all to ponder and consider is; will the entry level Teres with the upgraded Origin arm give me a bigger leap then the Basis 1400? Also, do you think the Origin and Sonata will be a good match. I really like this cartridge and would still like to use it. Other tables I am considering are Rega 25, VPI Scout or a used HP III or IV.

Any suggestions or comments are greatly appreciated. None of these tables are available locally so I am unable to audition them.

Thanks guys!

Tim
mitcheft
psychicanimal
1,738 posts
 
TWL, you sound like me defending the modded Technics 1200 in the under $1,000 price range!

Mitcheft, my feedback to you is to go in the archives and search for IKEA Rack. It's a suggestion from Ken Lyon of Greater Ranges/Neuance. Make yourself a TT stand w/ the IKEA tables and take it from there. It will cost you less than $40. Listen for a couple of weeks.

If your Denon sounds fine I would rather get rid of the Black Cube and get something better--an EAR 834 or a Monolithic PS-1. Dan Wright (www.modwright.com) uses both in his reference system. He also mods the outboard dual mono power supply for the Monolithic. Don't be fooled by how little they cost. I believe phono stage is *more* important than your TT choice.

If you still want more music then you can go ahead and buy another TT. Don't believe LINN.
jimbo3
304 posts
 
TWL- Good post, especially for those who are considering moving into this quality level. But don't fret- you don't at all sound like you are trying to defend the Teres.

Regards
Jim
tagyerit
73 posts
 
when i had a rega p3 and was using a black cube, i tried a number of carts and preamps to improve the sonics. they were all different and some did offer improvement(s). then i moved up in the rega line and eventually out of it with a vpi aires . but at the point i tried different phono stages they all blew away the cube, and the difference in performance was great, not subtle. my black cube was a black hole into which vast amounts of analog wonder vanished forever. the improvement to my system when i left it behind was far greater then when i switched tables still using it. btw, i was using grado carts most of that time.
do you have a local dealer who has demo equipment; or a kind friend who would help you to audition other pre/phono's? the cube may be holding you back, and if it is, it will do so with any tt you switch to. you will benefit from the new table, but you will not be getting all there is to get from it (or from the arm and the cart).
also: what preamp are you using?
mitcheft OP
9 posts
 
In answer to your question Tagyerit, I use a Classe CP60 PreAmp and McIntosh MC300 Amp. Thiel 3.6 speakers with Cardas Golden cross interconnects and speaker cables. The guy who is getting rid of the Basis 1400 also had an EAR phono preamp which i did not like at all. I thought it was way too dark. He put it up here and it sold in a day. Anyway, I am not married to the Black Cube so anyone with recommendations for a phono pre I would be glad to hear. Thanks again guys. All the advice has been really interesting and has given me alot to think about.

Tim
bj812
20 posts
 
Look at the clearaudio leveltwo express Machine RB250. I replact A DP47 with it & Im in love. My wife thanks I love it more than her. HA HA HA.
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