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Toe in is crucial

I’m like the rest of us, obsessing about the smallest tweaks in power supplies, USB cables, cable risers, room acoustics, etc. But an underrated (or discussed) speaker tweak is toe in.

in my system (SF Amati, Mc components, Cardas, Weiss) adjusting speaker toe in by as little as ¼ inch has greater impact on SQ than many cable and other tweaks I’ve made at the tail end of refinement. The impact (and trade off) on sound stage, imaging, and treble presentation, by the smallest adjustments is profound.

I wasn’t quite satisfied with my system tonight—a little too forward; a narrower soundstage than I like. A ¼ inch toe in adjustment took me from hifi to the concert.

Not sure if others have experienced this, but thought I’d share.

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daveyf
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@sounds_real_audio    Interesting comment, does that apply to what i posted above??

 

@baylinor  That is my experience as well.

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daledeee1
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My horn speakers are pointed right at me.  If my room was wider that might change but I have great imaging and wide sound stage. 

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@sounds_real_audio 

It can also depend on the design of the speakers, my apogee duetta 2 speakers sound best without any toe in.

lanx0003
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Toe-in is just one of the variables in the equation in determining, specifically, image and soundstage width/depth/height.  Depending on the speakers' vertical and horizontal dispersion pattern, adjusting those parameters including toe-in, separations bet. speakers, from front/side walls and the distance to the listening position will all play key roles.  The room acoustics come into play as well.  It is sort of complicated...  

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ozzy62
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I agree with an earlier post regarding Reference 3a speakers and toe in. I've had a couple of pairs of Grand Veenas over the years and any toe in whatsoever and the magic is gone.

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