Tone arm plug in RCA cable?

SAEC and Audio Technica both use the Wire Types referred to. 

If you can look at a RCA Phono Cable with PC Triple C wire, this will be a  wire that has a very detectable lucidity and is proving to be improved over OCC wire.

One other wire with a similarity in the detectable lucidity, along with a detectable hint of richness is D.U.C.C, this can be found as a RCA Phono Cable. 

If the OP wants to replace the Cable used for the PIB - 1, the method when used will add one more set of connections and disruption in the signal path.

Causing this condition is usually one that is avoided and attempts are made to keep the connections to the minimum required.

If this is the only option the OP is considering, a Pure Copper Zavfino DIN Plug and the Chassis Mount  Pure Copper WBT reduced eddy RCA's will be a good start for the connections.

These parts 'could' be attached to the box, which will remove the need for the length of cable to be utilised. The additional Space that may be required under the TT to achieve this would need to be addressed.

A length of Cable with PC Triple C or D.U.C.C Wire will be a cable worth experiencing, if the Cable has to remain used with the box, either of these Cables will most likely be kept and expanded on in use as umbilical's at other interfaces.       

Looks like a certain forum contributor is 'wed' to referring to other members as being 'stupid' hopefully this short lived and is only a passing trend/fad.

I think this is possible, as the certain forum member, did refrain from informing the OP in this thread, to Dump their equipment and spend thousands $$$$$ on the barrage of purchase links subsequently supplied.  This usual 'wed' to attitude appears to have been a fad, I hope as they have discovered the approach is not abe to be taken serious and is laughable, or is this different approach only limited to this thread?    

It is not really considerate to the OP, or contributors who have offered support,  that the raised Thread is contaminated with unhelpful moments, that are of a content that is attacking the contributions offered,  especially attacks of the type that are bullying and intended to discourage further input.

@imhififan a good selection of photo suggestions to help the OP see further considerations. 

I am with you on option 3, the OP is hopefully still enjoying the assessment of what can be achieved with the options outlined.         

I feel the need to correct an earlier statement made about the Success of the SME Knife Edge Bearing, my prediction of 10's of 1000's is quite short the following is official: 

Official Factory Production Statistics

Series I: 1959-1963, approximately 10,000 built

Series II: 1963-1973, approximately 180,000 built

Series II Improved: 1973-2003, 260,484 built

  This Link has loaded better, it is best available to be read with an easy access.

There are Two accounts within this Thread, one from the attached link and one from a earlier post, that have content referring to the SME mindset for their Knife Edge Designs.

As these accounts are Polar Opposites, it is looking like One Account is with a content that is utter BS and has only been supplied to attempt to Bully an individual into a submission and acceptance of a incorrect statement.

My assessment is that the link is containing very accurate information.

https://www.tonepublications.com/old-school/sme-3009-tonearm/

@holmz  I think your query has been on how to exchange parts belonging to the Box, especially the wire.

I have suggested a method that can bypass the wire, or to use a wire of a particular type.

Both of these can produce the configuration the box offers and both configurations are available in the Market Place.

As said reducing the amount of connections is most desirable.

There is an advantage to the Box, as there are not a broad selection of DIN>RCA Cables as their are RCA>RCA Cables.

This box will enable the opportunity to experience a broad range of cables over a period of time and assist in your experiencing Cables as an umbilical down stream  from your Analogue Source.

This is how others who I have introduced my cable suggestions to have discovered its value in their systems.

This is now why in these systems there are at present produced Tonearms with PC Triple C now used as internal wiring. 

DIN>RCA PC Triple C Cables purchased and a Phonostage had the internal signal path wiring exchanged to the same material. 

Contempt prior to investigation is a very restrictive place to be.

There is nothing like being curious and inquisitive, it is a great place to be, no matter what the outcome of the experiences undertaken, for others the healthy disposition has proved to be the mother of invention. 

Alternatively there are other suggestions being offered, that from some will potentially end up with you being informed of needing dump your equipment and spend thousands $$$$$, always easy when it is others money.     

@holmz I am a regular forum visitor and contributor to a selection of posts on the analogue section, your inquiry has been welcome and has also encouraged another forum visitor to make their own inquiry on a similar situation.

Your use of this device is not stupid, and any suggestion that promotes the idea that to assist you with your inquiry as being stupid is not helpful to your inquiry.

Valuable Lessons are learnt from experiences encountered in HiFi, maybe the use of the intermediate box in the Signal Path is one that you are yet to assess and evaluate for its impact on the Sound Quality that is being produced.

Maybe this thread is a stimulus to trial the options suggested and select the one that is the most attractive to you.

Either way, the choices you are contemplating working with or are to make, along with the inquiry of this thread are not stupid.

I have seen a few contributions that are food for thought as the inquisitiveness grows.  

@holmz a Pure Copper Zavfino DIN Plug and the Chassis Mount  Pure Copper WBT reduced eddy RCA's will be a good start for the connections.

There are already links to Zavfino in other posts. 

The Jury is out on Copper vs Silver, I have used OFC Copper Cables in the early 00's  and exchanged all Cables to OCC Copper and Silver over the course of New Millennium.   

In the past few years I have been exchanging to CCC Copper and D.U.C.C Copper Cables from Power Cable through to Speaker.

After the impression made during a recent Tonearm demonstration, I will soon have a Tonearm Internal Wiring in CCC as well.

SAEC are unique in using the same wire type  in a commercial product, and it can be found used in their $13000 Tonearm Model. 

Both myself and a friend now know why SAEC chose this wire, out of the numerous other choices for them to select. 

@holmz I hope you are not feeling you need to be acquiring cryptic information concealed from the world, where only certain code breakers are able to discover the relics that have the inscribed ancient text needing to be deciphered to allow entry into the secret society of the Audiophile.

I do believe there is a minority that are infiltrated into forums, that are in search of this type of fantasy, but their misguided approach has them obsessing over anything but the actual replay of a music.

The really noticeable and outstanding trait, is that there is no fun in that place, life is hurtling by, and the joy of living is being passed by, with a head full of confusion and discontentment.

An Audiophile enjoys the moment when encountering music and equipment used for sound reproduction. 'ENJOYS' being the key word, I have met hundreds, they are a pleasure to be around.

@holmz You have been informed that your analogue knowledge is ’so low’ by a person who made the following statement:

when SME ( that knows everything you can imagine on tonearmTTs. )

Well SME have a history of producing Knife Edge Bearing Designs, they probably sold in 10’s of 1000’s and guess what, all were most likely really ’ENJOYED’ by their owners, and I will even go out on a limb and suggest a large selection of individuals still ’ENJOY’ them today as being equipment used for sound reproduction.

Interesting SAEC and Jelco have a similar design for their models and I know from many different observations, these are models that are with their own following and I will go out on a limb and suggest a large selection of individuals still ’ENJOY’ them today as being equipment used for sound reproduction.

Zavfino is a Brand that is well respected and there has been advisories offer to look this way, but I am sure you were en-route, there has been a lot to sift through.

The following is the statement in the previous post:

About zavfino items you are not stupid

When you get the time to visit the Zavfino Site and look at their devices, have a look at their Aeshna Tonearm, it is a Knife Edge Bearing Design, I think this will be quite interesting to you, you might even wonder why a Company renowned for their Tonearm Ancillaries would opt for this design.

Have a look at the Link, you might even wonder why SAEC would opt for this design.

The usual method - right click on the page and choose Translate in the toolbar.

The product summary will be of interest.

There are individuals on forums that are afflicted with such obsessional dispositions, their need to enforce their fantasies about designs and products are at risk of becoming a very misguided garble and will ultimately end up with an individual who has sought a guidance receiving mis-information.

The Link will give a better description on how SME were looking at their designs for their Tonearm Models, along with how it received as a product throughout the world. That is a better overview, than the very obscured and narrow focused view of your other source of information. 

As a summary, of the Link, I do not see anywhere within it that makes the SME look like a design as corrective measure to a mistake to swept under the carpet.

More like they revered the design and continued with it comfortably into the New Millennium.

Under the present guidance you are receiving from the terminally obsessed type of forum contributor, it will not be long, especially once they have made their new discovery, that they will be telling forum members the SME V is mistake to be abandoned, as the Wand is inferior and is now superseded, as SME have chose to use a secret material that is a compound of plastics/resins to produce a composite wand.

https://www.tonepublications.com/old-school/sme-3009-tonearm/#:~:text=Founded%20in%201946%20by%20Robertson,in%20the%20autumn%20of%201958.

Series II Improved: 1973-2003, 260,484 built

SME Series V 1984 - 2022 (Possibly to be Superseded and not offered any longer)

One Model has 30 Years of Production, the other has 38 Years of Production.

The overlap in the Market Place of the Two models is seemingly 20 Years, and as a wild conjecture, if keeping it contained to using an average of the gross sales figure, it could be assessed that during the Two Tonearms overlap period as a sale item, there were potentially 173,656 sales of the Series II Tonearm.

With this as a evidence, it does seem extremely difficult to come to the conclusion that SME were of the opinion:

"SME took in count its mistake with the knife bearing switched at once for the great SME V till today"   

It would also seem that during the time of the launch of the SME V, that the Series II was competing for a market share against other Brands  Knife Edge Bearing Tonearm Designs.  I got the math wrong previously on the gross sales, so I will try and hold off repeating that one.

Maybe another might like to take a stab at how many Knife Edge Tonearms were sold from all Brands during the First 20 Year period of the SME V being a sale item.

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to compare the marketing data for the sales of the SME V along side the gross figure.

I can't resist, I reckon, as a wild guess, there were close to 500 000 very contented and happy, 'not stupid' , Knife Edge Bearing Tonearm users during this period.

  I have followed certain obsessive types posts on here for quite some time, and have been under impressed with the very noticeable intent to destroy a reasonable inquiry.

I have been under impressed by the certain obsessive type who's unconstrained displays of brutishness, where there is a noticeable comfort in their expressing themselves directly toward another.  Especially an individual who is open and with admirable honesty and for these enjoyed traits, is met with their antithesis and offered a barrage of insults that escalate down to a personal level.

As I have made it know before I seem reasonably adept at identifying this type of individual, and class this type as an individual as one to be avoided at all cost.