Tone controls -- assuming you're ok with them, when would you try them?


So, I'm learning and experimenting w/ speaker/sub placement. I've had some success. Presently using my old Adcom GTP-400 preamp (treble, bass, and loudness/contour controls). It's likely my next amps won't have tone controls (nor balance). 

Beyond compensating for old/bad recordings, I realize there is, nevertheless, a standing debate whether tone controls are worth the (likely) sound degradation. Imagine that debate was settled and tone controls were deemed worthwhile, overall. IF you'll stipulate to all that, my question is this:

QUESTION: If the sound is not right in your room, and you've placed speakers as best you can, what do you try next? At what point do you go for tone controls?

Perhaps some just go for tone controls from the get-go…happy to hear from you all, too.

FWIW, I saw this nice list from @erik_squires on this topic:   
erik_squires8,293 posts
08-19-2017 11:06am
Tone controls help us compensate for differences in recording trends across decades of recordings.
Tone controls help us adjust our sound quality to different listening situations and volumes.
Tone controls help us adjust for speaker placement.
Tone controls are much cheaper and more efficient way of doing this than most other solutions.
A good tone control is a lot easier to implement than a good equalizer. Fewer bands so more affordable to use high quality parts.

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You need tone controls as you age and your hearing is no longer as good as when you were 12 years old. 
My next amp won't have volume control, either. If I want the music louder, I'll just move closer.
In all seriousness, my integrated amp has all that old-school stuff. Bass, treble, balance, loudness. Most of the time, it isn't used, and is in fact bypassed completely. But at times, it's useful. Not every piece of music is recorded well.
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"Move closer" -- love it! 
"Spatial expander?" Move around.
"Turn it off?" Leave the house.
"Turn it on?" Return to house.
And so on.
Thanks for the chuckle, builder3!
As so many have mentioned here, the room is to be dealt with first. Unfortunately most audiophiles are lying to themselves about speaker placement and room treatment. Tile floors, glass sliding doors, and speaker pushed into corners tell me that the first attempt wasn't made. 
 The use of tone controls should com After that. So now as others have also mentioned, tone controls themselves can be a waste of time, at least in you acoustical environment/system. Bass and treble turnover frequencies are not able to be selected like on the old Yamaha gear, for example. In the past, JVC used a set of 5 tone controls. Maybe good.

a standing debate whether tone controls are worth the (likely) sound degradation

Which is a silly debate when the mixing console your music was made on has tone controls all over the signal chain. If the circuit is designed well, the tone control won’t ruin your sound by running it flat. Also saying you should at no point need tone controls is like saying I will only ride a bike with no brakes and adjustments because I am that much of a purist that even having the option to stop or enhance the experience to my liking as needed ruins my pure experience. Laughable logic.