To quote Johnnantais
[blockquote]You want PRESENCE, excitement, the sort of PALPABILITY which hits you in the stomach and leaves you gasping for breath...[/blockquote]
I know... idlerwheels are supposed to have it...
On the other, I had the pleasure to visit Thom from Galibier sound and listen to the Galibier Gavia with Stelvio platter - that one seems to have that in spades - amazing that a high mass design can have presence, rhythmic drive, and great dynamics, without sacrificing black backgrounds and detail retrieval.
I would highly recommend looking at the Galibier tables from the Gavia with Gavia platter to the higher end Stelvio.