Tube Integrated With Clarity

I’ve recently decided that I prefer integrated amps over seperates and I’m looking for another tube Integrated for my second system.  Not to long ago I purchased a demo Lab12 Integre4 and it really changed the way I looked at integrated amps. I’d be more than happy owning a second Lab12 but that’s just too boring.

I’m looking for a very fast and clear sound, yet retain the smoothness and liquidity of tubes. Not interested in amps with slow bass or overly smooth or rolled off treble.  I used to think extended treble and resolution resulted in brightness. I’ve learned over time that doesn’t have to be the case. I really think you can get a good dose of both without crazy money if you know what to look for.  It’s for a very small room so I’m open to anything from around 10watts plus. Current speakers are Totem Arro but looking to find a pair of Reference 3As or Fritz in the not too distant future.  

Budget is tops 4K but I’d prefer to spend less. So far I’m really interested in Linear Tube Audio as well as Octave. If I go with LTA I may buy a MZ2 and one of their power amps just because it seems cheaper.  With Octave I’m looking at V40 SE or V70SE. Hopefully with either I can find one that comes with their Black Box.  I’m guessing I may get some Audio Research suggestions, but I feel as great as they sound, value for your dollar is not the best. Also, I feel some of these other companies put more emphasis on developing integrated amps.  

As far as aesthetics I’m into a clean modern look. I think both Octave and LTA represent my preferences well. Anyways, I’m sure there’s plenty I’m missing and looking forward to some suggestions. 




Sorry I wasn’t clear, but the Lab12 isn’t going anywhere. I truly love it and have no thoughts of something better, at least for me. I’m. looking to replace seperates in my second system. Finding an integrated so satisfying in my main system made me realize the simplicity and cohesiveness can really provide value with a well voiced integrated. 

So, you are very happy with what you have and it isn’t going anywhere. but you are looking for something for your secondary system that is inferior, but different than your primary system?



I was interested in both LTA and Octave for my Spatial M3 Sapphires. I demoed the Octave V40 se with the SBB. It was a stunning amp that gave a new perspective on my music collection. Dynamics, Clarity, Instrument tonality and separation. With the ability to tweak with NOS driver tubes I am in love with the Octave line. Since upgraded to the V70 Class A and that is my forever Amp. Good Luck in your search. 

I read a great review, chose a Cayin A88T, 22/45 wpc, very glad I did

bigger brother is a100t 50/100 wpc, never heard one, but I imagine same sound as my A88T, however, A88T uses 6sl7 and 6sn7, the A100T uses 12's


VAS used to be the Cayin US rep


one a100t in usa

note: mk1 has internal bias, PITA, later models have exterior bias meter and adjusters. I needed mk1 for my 16 ohm speakers