Tube Question - Do they need time to "Break In"

Yikes, Audiofeil, play nice...

Follow-up question. How long do tubes take to reach operating temperature?

I ask because I'd imagine that wouldn't take more than a few minutes (not sure, which is why I asked), but my tube amp and pre sound better after an hour or so.

I know that's not break-in, but something is going on inside those vacuums!

Thanks everyone for the response...I'm changing tubes for the first time...

I'm just answering your question.

There are other parts, capacitors for instance, that sound "better" with some time.

Don't forget the "human factor" as well. You become acclimated and more comfortable (in most cases) after a bit of listening. You may perceive the system as sounding "better" as a result.

Lastly, much of our enjoyment or dissatisfaction with our system is dependent on emotional state. I'd bet that after a good meal, your favorite team winning, or a relaxing day the system sounds great.

Conversely, after a fight with the wife, bad day at the office, or having the air conditioning crap out on a hot/humid day your system may not sound as "great" as the day before when everything was running smooth.

IMO of course.

My preamp takes about an hour before it sounds best too. I think the warmup period is not for the tubes, but for the other electrical components within the preamp.

My experience is that tubes do take time to break in. Two years ago, I bought a pair of new Full Music Meshed-plate 300Bs for my SET amp. When I first powered them on, they would not even hold biases. They also sounded muddy and closed. If you looked at the meshed plates long enough, you could see their brightness changed!

After 200-300 hours, they started to open up and hold the bias levels. Now they work perfectly. I really like these tubes!