Turntable speed accuracy

I think Grr6001 summed it all up pretty well.

Unoear,

Regarding:

I heard that you are looking to sell your NVS; are you going to still be planning to continue as a dealer for NVS and JTinn?

In this economy I'm not sure it matters. If you have interest in the NVS I'm sure I can get one. Yes, I have been trying to sell a NVS, the one I have and/or another from stock. In fact I would love to sell about six of them if you know any interested parties.

I just purchased a new car, spent more than I should have, but all of them seem to be too much these days. The warranty on my old car was expiring and it was sink or swim.

Maybe cash flow is not an issue for you, it is for me. I still have a kid in college and my wife lost her job.

Mike L mentioned to me last year that he paid the same for his NVS as you did for yours...was your price around the $12k, or so, that JTinn was selling the NVS for earlier last year?

I speak to Mike Lavigne occasionally, he is always busy because he has about a hundred employees he has to deal with. Frankly I don't see how he does it.

As for price, I have no idea what Mike paid, I never ask.

The price for the NVS that I have, large halo and all the other upgrades is (and has been) always $45K as far as I know.

Not to be snooty with you, but if I owned a DD Rockport I would not give the slightest damn what anyone else had. I would just spin it and listen to some LPs.

Grr6001, Someone did indeed imply that the NVS is the best and he compared it to Rockport, Walker, SME 30 and many others. It was JTinn on his website. I also read that MLavigne thinks his NVS, Telos and Anna cartridge are the best he's ever heard. These seem to be absolute statements or at least the strong opinions of these two members of Audiogon.

I agree with you that if one hasn't heard it, he shouldn't have an opinion, but many of us certainly do. It's a part of these forums for better or for worse.

As this is a thread about turntable speed accuracy, I'm curios to know if Albert or anyone has tested the NVS with a TimeLIne?

Lewm, I don't see anything wrong with my posting above and in general just discussion and nothing else ment by it.

I thought these forums were for such, to share and learn.

Peter's post harkens me back to a question I asked JTinn on the other thread: How does the NVS maintain correct speed? What I mean is, does it use servo feedback mechanism or some other strategy? I never got a response to that question, and the information is not clearly given on the NVS website. No problem if JTinn wants to keep a trade secret. Same question goes for The Beat DD turntable; Steve Dobbins writes that he did not use a servo because of the "hunting" issue with servos. (This paradigm says that the platter is constantly being jerked around by the servo, at a micro level, because the servo constantly is reacting after the fact to minute variations in speed. Those who don't prefer DD turntables often allude to this phenomenon and say they can "hear" it happening.) I think The Beat uses some sort of viscous drag on the bearing and a 3-phase AC synchronous motor that works against the constant drag force to maintain speed without benefit of a servo. (But my Denon DP80 uses a 3-phase AC synchronous motor too yet takes feedback from the read-out of platter speed effected at the rim of the platter by a sensor and somehow incorporates a quartz-linked servo in the process.) The options are many and complex and somewhat interesting as they bear on what we ultimately hear. Bill Thalmann, a guy I respect who actually can figure out these circuits tells me the Denon one is quite advanced, even for today.