Turntable speed accuracy


There is another thread (about the NVS table) which has a subordinate discussion about turntable speed accuracy and different methods of checking. Some suggest using the Timeline laser, others use a strobe disk.

I assume everyone agrees that speed accuracy is of utmost importance. What is the best way to verify results? What is the most speed-accurate drive method? And is speed accuracy really the most important consideration for proper turntable design or are there some compromises with certain drive types that make others still viable?
peterayer
Grr6001, Someone did indeed imply that the NVS is the best and he compared it to Rockport, Walker, SME 30 and many others. It was JTinn on his website. I also read that MLavigne thinks his NVS, Telos and Anna cartridge are the best he's ever heard. These seem to be absolute statements or at least the strong opinions of these two members of Audiogon.

I agree with you that if one hasn't heard it, he shouldn't have an opinion, but many of us certainly do. It's a part of these forums for better or for worse.

As this is a thread about turntable speed accuracy, I'm curios to know if Albert or anyone has tested the NVS with a TimeLIne?
Lewm, I don't see anything wrong with my posting above and in general just discussion and nothing else ment by it.

I thought these forums were for such, to share and learn.

Peter's post harkens me back to a question I asked JTinn on the other thread: How does the NVS maintain correct speed? What I mean is, does it use servo feedback mechanism or some other strategy? I never got a response to that question, and the information is not clearly given on the NVS website. No problem if JTinn wants to keep a trade secret. Same question goes for The Beat DD turntable; Steve Dobbins writes that he did not use a servo because of the "hunting" issue with servos. (This paradigm says that the platter is constantly being jerked around by the servo, at a micro level, because the servo constantly is reacting after the fact to minute variations in speed. Those who don't prefer DD turntables often allude to this phenomenon and say they can "hear" it happening.) I think The Beat uses some sort of viscous drag on the bearing and a 3-phase AC synchronous motor that works against the constant drag force to maintain speed without benefit of a servo. (But my Denon DP80 uses a 3-phase AC synchronous motor too yet takes feedback from the read-out of platter speed effected at the rim of the platter by a sensor and somehow incorporates a quartz-linked servo in the process.) The options are many and complex and somewhat interesting as they bear on what we ultimately hear. Bill Thalmann, a guy I respect who actually can figure out these circuits tells me the Denon one is quite advanced, even for today.
Hi Albert, thanks for the neutral responce.

It was Mike L's posting suggesting this NVS table was all this and that as you know dumping other tables that he had.

Here is just one posting

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vaslt&1036349020&openflup&2334&4#2334

So when using the TimeLine on the NVS what are the results?
Grr6001 - No one ( to my knowledge ) ever stated it was better than any other TT.
Jonathan Tinn had stated in his system ( which now seems to have disappeared) :
"The Wave Kinetics NVS Direct Drive Turntable is absolutely in a league of it's own. Having a great deal of experience with the likes of the Rockport Sirius III, Continuum, SME 30, Forsell Reference, Grand Prix Audio Monaco, VPI HRX, Nottingham Hyperspace, Basis Debut, Lodo Audio The Beat, Kuzma Stabi XL, Vyger Indian Signature, Walker Proscenium and many others, this turntable is truly unique. It is immediately noticeable. "
There was no declaration of commercial interest.

However it is time to move on.