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Vandersteen fans..need your input (TREO CT)

Hey Guys, I love my TREO CTs, but I feel like they don’t really start to shine until I crank up the volume to 85dBs or higher. I feel like the details are missing at lower volumes. I know I have a lot of acoustic issues in my space, but generally speaking, at what volumes do you guys listen to your system. Just to give you an idea of my system, I’m using an Ayre AX-5/20 integrated, Aurender N100H streamer, Denafrips Terminator DAC (also an Ayre Codex DAC), AQ Earth XLR cables and AQ GO4 double run bi-wire speaker cables. Any of you guys do low volume listening...like the when your family is a sleep. Any general tips to improve the low volume listening experience? I suspect I would benefit the most getting room treatments but it’s not an option for me at the moment sharing the living room.  Thanks in advance.
Also, check out this link on youtube, it’s rare to see TREO CTs in videos on the web.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zKxBalxq1c
nycjlee
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audionoobie
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I have the Vandy 2ce Sig II’s with a Belles Aria int. amp and AQ GO4 double run bi-wire speaker cables. Your system is probably 3x more expensive than mine, but I share the same exact opinion as you. That there is something lacking with respect to detail while listening at low and moderate levels. Perhaps this is something inherent in the ’Vandersteen’ sound?

Lately I’ve found myself listening to my system while sitting on the floor about 3 feet away from the speakers. When I do this I feel like I step into a 3D holographic world of sound. There is a lack of low end when I do this but the sound is rich in detail.

Could this be indicative of problems with my room or speaker setup?

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You might think about this. I have 2ce Sig II and I made a change (relunctantly) that enabled them to sound better at low volume. I got a hearing test. Yes many people suffer from hearing loss and do not know it. Now that I have hearing aids, I can hear a narrow higher freq band and enjoy low level
listening much moreso. Don’t laugh, many people in this hobby have hearing loss.... I lost some hearing from Military service with Air Defense artillery, Field Artillery and Spec Ops units but keep in mind the more you crank up volume on your stereo, the greater potential for hearing damage.
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@2psyop Nope, you may be on to something there. I’m a drummer of almost 40 years. I did not always wear hearing protection in my youth. The last hearing test I had, about 20 years ago, showed loss of hearing in high frequencies.

--Joe

cedargrover
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I think our hearing is less sensitive to high frequencies at low volumes.  Have you tried playing around with toe in? 
tomcarr
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Excellent posts already, here's my 2 cents:
You won't get the level of SQ that's possible with your system until you have a dedicated listening room, dedicated AC line, and room treatments.
My Oppo/Krell/Vandy 2Cs went from pretty good to wonderful in my dedicated room after I did room treatments.
The room is 50% of the sound you will hear (or not hear).

Tom
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