Vintage DD turntables. Are we living dangerously?


I have just acquired a 32 year old JVC/Victor TT-101 DD turntable after having its lesser brother, the TT-81 for the last year.
TT-101
This is one of the great DD designs made at a time when the giant Japanese electronics companies like Technics, Denon, JVC/Victor and Pioneer could pour millions of dollars into 'flagship' models to 'enhance' their lower range models which often sold in the millions.
Because of their complexity however.......if they malfunction.....parts are 'unobtanium'....and they often cannot be repaired.
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@lewm Tuchan’s technician in Regensburg, Germany: www.Audio-Reparatur.de
He stated the estimate cost at 1000 Euro for repair.
thanks @halcro 


Hi guys

@lewn I read many times this and other threads to understand the problems of TT-101 and I reported all the information possible to the repairman but the conclusion was a failure.

Unfortunately, the TT-101 is a complicated and delicate turntable, each operation requires to mount everything and try, disassemble and reassemble disassemble and reassemble continuously with the risk of breaking a cable or other; all this is frustrating as well as increasing the hours for waste of time.

I also read the comment of chackster for the cost of Audio-Reparatur.de 1000 € is madness ........ you can look for another TT101 running for that price and keep the other TT-101 dead for spare parts.

Unfortunately the hourly costs of a repariman are high all over the world ..... it would be necessary to find a retired repairman who does it for passion at a flat rate.
@best-groove, if one uses threaded rod and a couple washers and nuts in each of the three mounting holes, you can lift the entire unit up a good 12", leaving room directly underneath.  This is why the cables harnesses are so long - so the main board can be turned over with component side accessible, laying on the work surface below the suspended unit.  

Most DD's can be worked on this way. 
Dear @lewm @best-groove  and friends: Today we don´t have to live " dangerously " any more and we don't have to follow buying vintage DD turntables and certainly not the TT-101 that's not a " superlative " TT and way inferior to the Technics an even to Denon and for what we can read here and elsewhere no a truly great electronic design as the Yamahas,  Denons,Pionners, Technics or Kenwoods. TT-101 is an inferior unit.

Obviously that people that makes the refurbish work as JP always will speaks according and nothing wrong with that.

Anyway, the today new Technics units are at really nice price with no sproblems and in many ways are better designs that its vintage brothers.

I think is the way to go. I'm not telling you to put on sale your Kenwood or Exclusive or DP-100 but to forget the other units including the vintage Technics.

I was a proponent of those vintage Technics and other DD unit ( never the TT-101. ) but today that " tale " is end/closed. We have a " new kid in the block ".

All of you make you a favor and if your unit fails just forgeret and give up with and go for the " new kid...".

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.






@rauliruegas

maybe you’re right, but I love the top level vintage turntables too much and I’m a big drug for me to own them.

I can not afford a Nakamichi TX 1000, Kenwood L07D, an Emt 950, a Denon DP100M, Pioneer Exclusive P3, Onkyo PX 100M, or a Victor TT-801 o many others, but a TT-101 for example if purchased to repair for $ 100 or some Technics SP 10 II cheap because junk, I do a lot willingly, even if I spend a lot, a lot of my free time to restore them, but is passion only passion or is this all madness?
I do not know but I feel that I really like it!

I’m tired of restoring only SP10II ...... soon I will finish two and I have three more awaiting restoration (in total I have in the collection four SP 10II and two SL1000MK2) I wanted to change model and I was hoping to buy the TT101 to appreciate this machine too if it could work; waiting I also have a TT-71 that was given to me and that needs repair and restoration for my collection but,I was hoping to make the TT-101 work too.
I am very stubborn even though I have little hope.

@jpjones thank you for good idea. ;)