Dear @djones51 : Thank’s for the very good links. Here one posted by @cleeds in other thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM
Problem with LP audiophiles is that are severely biased with the " nice " developed distortions/colorations and with the true missed recorded signal that never can be recovered.
Many of them are only sound lovers but not real MUSIC lovers as they think are.
They always speak of that " warmth, swetness, nuances " and the like adjectives that just do not exist in a near field live MUSIC that is the position where recording microphones are.
Several times I already explained step by step facts that impede the cartridge stylus tip can pick up all the recorded information and in the other side explained all the distortions developed at each single link in the LP playback process that’s is a nigthmare for say the least.
I explained all what happens at microscopic levels between the stylus tip ridding the grooves but almost all are " deaf " not even try to understand it " things "/facts that are just common sense. No they insist that digital is the experience that is missing a lot of information and developing distortions they do not like.
I tell those audiophiles that they need to listen a trumpet player seated at 2-3m. from him or with a piano player seated nearfield where the players been playing at live event SPL and then they will learn that MUSIC is all but warmth or sweet or the like: MUSIC has natural agresivenees, natural brigthness, dynamic power, even strident, with full rythm, wake up every kind of feeelings/emotions, , etc, etc.
What in true are missing those fake MUSIC lovers with digital? they are missing all the LP developed huge distortions ( read: warmth, swetness, etc, etc. ) and listening the recorded information they missed with the LP playback process.
Well, all of them are accustomed for 20-40 years to listen those " nice distortions ", they brain tells that if in digital does not exist those " nice distortions " then is wrong.
Bass range is the MUSIC foundation and no LP analog bass can compare with the digital true bass kind of sound.
MUSIC is and means accuracy ( not analythical. ), its notes has an accurate " order " as it has too its harmonics. LP experience is totally non-accurated it can’t be accurated when in all pivoted tonearms exist a tracking error that precludes per sé accuracy about and the inverse RIAA eq. can’t mimic the RIAA eq. from the recording process but not only that becaiuse in a CD there is no RIAA and the recording and playback processses are accurate. In digital does not exist the skipping of the stylus tip during grooves tracking.
Coming back to the bass frequency range, the better this range the better the overall listening experiences and analog can’t compete with digital in this sole characteristic.
Even with digital recorded LPs we can listen the difference in the bass range and its superiority over the non-digital recorded LPs.
Years ago I was exactly as all them till I had my first near field live MUSIC event, I learned from that very first time and followed learning attending to more nearfield seated live events..
I’m not biased to digital I’m biased to the MUSIC and listen MUSIC through LPs or digital alternative.
We don’t need scientific studies to understand the digital/analog differences in favor of digital, what we need is just common sense in an open non-biased brain/attitude.
Easy.
Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
I forgot on that bass range this thread I started several years ago:
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/do-you-think-you-need-a-subwoofer/post?postid=310058#310058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM
Problem with LP audiophiles is that are severely biased with the " nice " developed distortions/colorations and with the true missed recorded signal that never can be recovered.
Many of them are only sound lovers but not real MUSIC lovers as they think are.
They always speak of that " warmth, swetness, nuances " and the like adjectives that just do not exist in a near field live MUSIC that is the position where recording microphones are.
Several times I already explained step by step facts that impede the cartridge stylus tip can pick up all the recorded information and in the other side explained all the distortions developed at each single link in the LP playback process that’s is a nigthmare for say the least.
I explained all what happens at microscopic levels between the stylus tip ridding the grooves but almost all are " deaf " not even try to understand it " things "/facts that are just common sense. No they insist that digital is the experience that is missing a lot of information and developing distortions they do not like.
I tell those audiophiles that they need to listen a trumpet player seated at 2-3m. from him or with a piano player seated nearfield where the players been playing at live event SPL and then they will learn that MUSIC is all but warmth or sweet or the like: MUSIC has natural agresivenees, natural brigthness, dynamic power, even strident, with full rythm, wake up every kind of feeelings/emotions, , etc, etc.
What in true are missing those fake MUSIC lovers with digital? they are missing all the LP developed huge distortions ( read: warmth, swetness, etc, etc. ) and listening the recorded information they missed with the LP playback process.
Well, all of them are accustomed for 20-40 years to listen those " nice distortions ", they brain tells that if in digital does not exist those " nice distortions " then is wrong.
Bass range is the MUSIC foundation and no LP analog bass can compare with the digital true bass kind of sound.
MUSIC is and means accuracy ( not analythical. ), its notes has an accurate " order " as it has too its harmonics. LP experience is totally non-accurated it can’t be accurated when in all pivoted tonearms exist a tracking error that precludes per sé accuracy about and the inverse RIAA eq. can’t mimic the RIAA eq. from the recording process but not only that becaiuse in a CD there is no RIAA and the recording and playback processses are accurate. In digital does not exist the skipping of the stylus tip during grooves tracking.
Coming back to the bass frequency range, the better this range the better the overall listening experiences and analog can’t compete with digital in this sole characteristic.
Even with digital recorded LPs we can listen the difference in the bass range and its superiority over the non-digital recorded LPs.
Years ago I was exactly as all them till I had my first near field live MUSIC event, I learned from that very first time and followed learning attending to more nearfield seated live events..
I’m not biased to digital I’m biased to the MUSIC and listen MUSIC through LPs or digital alternative.
We don’t need scientific studies to understand the digital/analog differences in favor of digital, what we need is just common sense in an open non-biased brain/attitude.
Easy.
Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
I forgot on that bass range this thread I started several years ago:
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/do-you-think-you-need-a-subwoofer/post?postid=310058#310058