Want to get into Analog

big_greg, thanks for your response. I’m trying to get a better sense of what you consider to be “better” sound; while admitting that you get more enjoyment from the (apparently) lesser.  “Revealing” can mean different things to different listeners and isn’t always at the top of list of priorities for some listeners. Feel free to expound if you would like. Thanks again.

orpheus10, I learned a long time ago that it is pointless to try and have a meaningful dialogue with you. Case of “Mars and Venus”; and that is being very generous. As usual, you are missing the point with your insistence on “winning” an argument that should never have become an argument. Please look for the argument elsewhere. Peace.

There are some very good points raised here and I am just going to throw this out there.
I am currently selling a fully restored Dual 1019 ready to go at $299. No it is not a shameless plug ... Lol.
Would I recommend this tt to a new to analog person? Heck no, even though restored and in perfect working order it is still not your definition of plug and play. I am usually fiddling slightly with antiskate and vtf depending on records. This type of older vintage idler drive is usually going to need a bit more fiddling than a simple belt drive.
For example only couple days ago I noticed it sounded slow even with pitch adjusted fully up. Investigation revealed that the brass drive cone was not truly tight on the shaft and had slipped down on the shaft a little, hence running slow.
Reset it, tightened it up and checked speed and set with strobe.

Relatively simple task for me but for a newbie to idler drives or tt in general?
May have driven them crazy.

Plenty of sub $500 tt especially used would be a lot easier to live with and still give a nice experience.

@frogman "Better" is by definition a subjective term, however what I'm referring to are the things that seem to tick the check boxes for "audiophiles", dynamics, details, black backgrounds, soundstage, excetera excetera.

I personally get more enjoyment out of spinning vinyl even if technically the sound quality isn't quite as good. I'm more likely to get up and walk around or be doing something else and have the music be in the background if I'm listening to a CD or streaming than if I'm listening to a record. Does that help with your understanding of the point I'm trying to get across?

big_greg, it does help; a lot. Thanks for sharing; and for making MY point.  Regards.

There is no argument Frogman, you're listening to Class "A" analog while recommending no class analog for someone else.