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In this months Absolute Sound magazine there is a nice review of an amp that many of us would probably consider based not only on the review but on the topology utilized with the amp. The amp in question is the new Air Tight ATM 300R. This amp utilizes the 300B tube and according to Dick Olsher " The Air tight ATM300-R wowed me with countless hours of listening pleasure. It consistently brought to life the full sonic promise of the 300B". Sounds amazing right??


Except, nowhere ( except in the specs section) does it mention that this amp is limited to 9Watts/Ch!! And at that it is putting out about 10% distortion! So not only is the amp severely limited to which speakers one can match it to, but those speakers had better be ULTRA high efficiency. While most experienced a’philes will expect the extremely severe limitations of this kind of max output, how many casual listeners who read this article will realize the extreme limitations that this amp comes with? Certainly none of that is mentioned in the review, which brings up the question...why not??? How many even somewhat seasoned a’philes have made the mistake of matching a flea powered amp with a less than favorable speaker load? Let’s hear about it....
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jjss49
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i have to say, this thread cracks me up

the full comic, ironic genius of this forum all on display, all at once

op - with 1800 posts, being called a non-audiophile HAHAHA he should be on a sweater sewing forum then

chuck m getting his face slaps and hand claps in HAHAHA

op reads a stereophile review (the most blatantly commercial stereo magazine out there) gets mad dick olsher doesn’t say an air tight tube amp has low power in his text review (clearly stated in the specs), complains bitterly he is wronged HAHAHA

op writes paragraphs upon paragraphs, post after post, to subsequently defend his position, restate his

LIFE IS SHORT - WE SHOULD ALL SPEND LESS TIME ARGUING WITH STRANGERS WE COULD CARE LESS ABOUT ON THE INTERNET

people, let's try to learn and share info on this site, not rant...

i am going for a swim get some cardio now, have a good day all!
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mapman
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I agree a good review covers what is needed to get best performance from any piece of gear especially those with limitations like low power amps or inefficient speakers.

Then again quality of reviews varies widely. You would hope that the premier publications do diligence, but.....

Vendors definitely do not advertise the limitations of their gear. Why? Because it is bad for sales.

Independent sources should though.

At least the specs are there for those capable of synthesizing them properly.

aewarren
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Here are the last sentences from the review:

"It gives me great pleasure to crown the ATM-300R as the new king of low-power amplification. I've yet to audition a more musically convincing low-power amplifier at any price point. Simply put: an awesome display of the power of the first watt."

What more do you want?
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@p05129  You are right, I am NOT a seasoned a'phile, certainly no where near as seasoned ( whoever that means?) as you!  ;0)

@aewarren  Does it not concern you at least a little bit that the reviewer in the Absolute Sound ( NOT Stereophile) omitted the fact that this amp needs to be used only with the utmost efficient speakers. No others need apply. Ralph ( atmasphere) seems to get my point about this glaring omission, surprising that so many others seemingly do not! 


mrdecibel
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Does it really need to have the words to be spoken, that " a 9 wpc tube amp, should be used with high efficiency speakers " ? Maybe to the layman. You, davey, are not a layman. Anyone reading the Absolute Sound, and having 1800 posts here, should assume it. On the other hand, if volume levels are kept low, or the listening environment is not cavernous, or the music is gentle ( not cannon shots of the 1812 ), 9 wpc can work, with an 87 db speaker. I still have not read the AS review, but considering a year and a half ago, the Stereophile review I mentioned above, was released on this amp, and AD goes into what davey is asking, the question could have been answered for him. BTW, Atmasphere, might agree with you, but as far as I am concerned, Ralph is being the gentleman he is, holding your hand. Good day, be well, and stay safe, to all.
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