What The Fidelity??


OK. So here is what I currently have, followed with what I was thinking of doing and ending with what a "pro installer" is recommending. Who can give me some opinions and insight?
Three years ago we moved into a new place and I called an installer to get things going. I only had Klipsch ref-62's for fronts and a 150.00 Samsung Blue-ray while watching a 46" panasonic plasma from COSTCO. That's it. He set up a Denon avr1910, Apple TV and a Belkin surge protector. Wireless control with a "genious 900 remote.
Time for an upgrade. I have ordered the Tekton Pendragons. Eric Alexander paired the M-lore center channel and sides for a 5.0 system. (I'll wait for now on the sub). I'm thinking either a 55" or 60" Panasonic VT50 or GT50. Room treatments from GIK (Brian has been quite helpful).
So, a new "pro installer " came over and right away said I have to forget about everything I have been thinking. He said the Pens would be too bright (Really!). The Denon is also too bright and harsh. The Blue-ray is crap. And finally, the TV's we buy at retail stores are also crap. They are tier 3 models. He can get the top tier models (better glass, better construction) and calibrate it before the install.
His line up is....
NAD T 757 receiver
NAD T 767 Blueray
Paridigm Studio 20 fronts
Paridigm Studio 10 rears
Paridigm Studio CC 490 center
J-29 speaker stands
Paridigm dual 12" ultra cube subs
HDMI Cable
He also suggests a processor (a 5,000.00 demo for 2,800.00) This total comes to around $14,000.00 not including the demo but it does include install, programming and calibration). So the question is......My price point with the Tekton speakers, GIK and HDTV would be around 7,500.00. Should I follow the expert advice or will my present components do the job?? By the way, the Samsung UN55ES8000ss is 4,000.00!
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Brian,

I re-read your post and also read a bit on the Pendragons. Please allow me to be blunt:

There is no way on earth your dealer has heard the Tektons; and there's no way he can make any comment on their sound. I'd like to know where he auditioned factory-direct speakers.

He's also substituting Paradigm bookshelf speakers and pitting them against full-range speakers. Apples and oranges setup.

Going by your description and your words, I wouldn't jump into anything blindly with this dealer. Instead, I'd wait for the Tektons to arrive, be fickle with your setup of the speakers (remember, positioning in the room is 50% of the sound) for the next 30 days and then make a decision. Ask Eric Alexander what he things mate well with the speakers for electronics.
I think your pro installer dealer is a bit heavy handed with his advice, however, I do find the Tekton an odd choice for home theater. It's a high effeciecy cross overless design. I would think Tekton buyers would typically be 2 channel tube amp guys. For home theater, paradigm actually is a pretty good choice.
Thanks you guys for the responses and the advice. Internetmin....the recommendations are much appreciated. I will check out oppo? and read some reviews. To clarify, after I mentioned keeping the Denon, he said " OK keep the Denon but there's no use getting the Paridigm......it won't be any good. Hmmmm. But then he said to get a processor. Which leads to a very interesting commentary. Have you ( or anyone ) ever heard of HDTV models available in "tiers" or "grades". He suggested that any TV bought at Best Buy or COSTCO or wherever is low end. The glass is cheap and the build is crap. ( these are his words ). He, though, can get high end with real high quality glass and construction. He's not comparing Runco to Samsung......he's comparing Samsung to Samsung, the same ES8000 model, only with an upgrade!! Personally I don't believe it.
And Jaxwired.......I'm a sound guy as opposed to a music or movie guy. I love smooth, warm music.....even if it's jamm'in and loud. The SOUND has to feel good. Even in movies, clarity and precision are more enjoyable than crash and bang. So maybe I am a tube amp guy after all .
Thanks again
"he's comparing Samsung to Samsung, the same ES8000 model, only with an upgrade"

I call B.S. on that one.
Brian,

There are different models of TVs within a line. Some are going to be "dealer only" or specialty products. An example is the Sharp Elite or the now discontinued Pioneer Kuro that are sold through specific channels (BTW, BestBuy Magnolia sections sell the premium TVs so that shoots the installer's theory out the window). Personally speaking, unless it's either of those two models, the markup isn't worth it.

Panasonic makes some gorgeous dealer-oriented displays but again they are really expensive compared to the other models. I've been an audiophile and home theater enthusiast for years. I try and keep up on the industry and read up on the technology. One of the reviewers I respect most is Tom Norton from Home Theater. I find his reviews and insights to be consistently high caliber. In some instances, he's pointed out that from a picture quality difference there is sometimes no difference between models; rather, features like 3D, additional ports, then Internet apps are the features in the more expensive models. Many of the entry level and mid-tier are even able to be ISF calibrated. As a general rule of thumb, the middle-tier TVs are better values than the very top of the line.

That being said, if the model numbers are the same, the dealer isn't somehow adding magic dust that only he has to make the TV perform better. I suggest you go through the reviews here at hometheater.com or soundandvision.com as your starting point:
http://www.hometheater.com/flat-panel-top-picks
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/category/site-channel/gear/tvs-projectors

If you are looking for a 55" TV, then consider this one from Panasonic and save yourself a few thousand dollars.
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/test-report-panasonic-tc-p55vt50-3d-plasma-hdtv
http://www.hometheater.com/content/panasonic-tc-p55st50-plasma-3d-hdtv

If you end up saving yourself thousands, you can buy my kids a $100 savings bond for college and pocket the rest! LOL ;-)

Don't forget to have fun with this process.

Theo