@mammothguy54 I’ve been doing the 2 tank cleaning method with the Degritter since I purchased the gadget last April. Takes twice the time but worth it in the end.
I do groups of records, like 8~16 at a time. After the Tergitol bath, I use a bamboo dish rack to store the records upright between bathes. After finishing the group, I switch the tank to distilled water and run the records through again for a rinse.
Regarding Tergitol, I’ve found that using more than 0.7ml of the concentrate in the Degritter tank (1.4l) leads to suds coming out of the slot-not a good thing.
daniel
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@tomic601 Jim, did you find/order an extra tank? Are you stocked up on distilled water? Walmart (gulp) had the best price at 89 cents/gallon for a while. But with the recent supply chain problems, the price jumped to $1.19/gallon last week (+10 cent bottle deposit). daniel
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@slaw Steve, is the remaster of “Piper” decent? daniel
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@boxer12 If you opt for the repress “Amanita”, be careful with the splatter vinyl. I don’t know who pressed it, but I went through 2 copies to find one in which both discs were free of surface “pocks” from the splatter process. Otherwise, outstanding record.
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Durutti Column “A Paean To Wilson” durutti.com 2021 reissue of Kooky 2010 release
Bardo Pond “Amanita” Matador 2021 reissue of 1996 release
Los Microwaves “The Birth Of Techno” Hyperspace 2021
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@boxer12 +1 Golden Palominos
@bslon +1 Blind Faith that was another surprise find among all the records that were hibernating in the shed.
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Joy Division “Closer” (new) Factory 2015 reissue of original Factory 1980 release
Wire “Pink Flag” Pink Flag UK 2018 reissue of Harvest 1977 release
Baby Buddha “Music For Teenage Sects” Hyperspace 2021 reissue of Posh Boy 1981 release
Algebra Suicide “Still Life” Dark Entries 2019 reissued collection of tracks recorded between 1985-1988
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Peter Holsapple & Chris Stamey “Our Back Pages” Omnivore 2021
The Toulon-Pedro Connection “I Mean Alarmed” Parallel Factory 2021 RSD
The Turtles “The Battle of the Bands” White Whale 1968
Iggy Pop “The Idiot” RCA Germany 1977
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Roxy Music “Stranded” Island UK 1973
Rachel Sweet “Fool Around” Stiff UK 1978
Plasmatics “10 Years of Revolutionary Rock & Roll” MVD 2014 (11” picture disc)
His Name Is Alive “All The Mirrors In The House” Disc3 UK 2019
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Paul Revere & The Raiders “Midnight Ride” Columbia 1966
Ten Years After “Rock & Roll Music to the World” Columbia 1972
Procol Harum “Exotic Birds and Fruit” Chrysalis 1974
Plastics “Origato Plastico” Invitation Japan 1980
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King Crimson “In The Court Of The Crimson King” Atlantic 1969
Rustin Man “Clockdust” Domino UK 2020
Kapt. Kopter And The Fabulous Twirly Birds “s/t” Epic 1972
Lou Reed “Transformer” RCA 1972
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@trhester1
Big improvement over my previous Benz Micro 2.0
You got me beat. My previous cartridge was one step above a cactus quill (a Shure SC39ED, the radio station gold standard for many years).
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@trhester1
fully upgraded LP-12, Ekos, and Krystal
How do like the Krystal? I have the same TT/arm with a Kandid and Urika in the plinth. I’d read some criticism the Kandid was a bit sterile and lacking “warmth”. However my experience has been quite the opposite I guess because of the vacuum tubes the signal encounters after leaving the Urika.
daniel
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Flying Saucer Attack “Further” Domino UK 1995
100 Flowers “s/t” Happy Squid 1983
DNA “A Taste Of DNA” American Clave 1981
Daniel Schmidt “In My Arms, Many Flowers” Recital 17 2016
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Captain Beefheart “The Spotlight Kid” Reprise 1972
Glenn Branca “The Ascension” Superior Viaduct 2014 reissue of 99 Records 1981 release
Idiot Orchestra “Liquid Idiot” Superior Viaduct 2015
V/A “Highlights Of Vortex” Etats-Unis 2017 reissue of Folkways 1959 release
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@tomic +1 Plasmatics woo-hoo Wendy O(oh my) Williams (RIP)
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The Hollies “History of British Pop Vol. 9” Parlophone-Odeon year? (Incredibly good Dutch pressing.)
Sensations’ FX “Fragments of Light” Superior Viaduct 2013 reissue of Universal 1974 release
Swell Maps “International Rescue” Alive Records 1999
Stallions “Hey Baby, It’s The Stallions” Junk Records 1996
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@bslon +1 X "Los Angeles"
Remarkable record, particularly the first Slash pressings. Engineering/mixing were superb given X was still considered something of an outlier at the time. I'm sure having Ray Manzarek producing it helped a lot.
Have you heard the recent (August 2020) X release "Alphabetland"? (don't know if this link will embed properly) Original lineup, like they never stopped.
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@tomic601
Happy New Year to you and Trish.
No worries Jim. You and Trish get well soon. Lots of quality listening time and good coffee (with a brandy chaser🍷).
If I get any replies about the duty cycle of the Degritter, I'll let you know. There is a lot to tell, but not here.
By the way, thanks for the Spencer connection. I'm looking forward to that.
daniel
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Ok, technical question time.
Are you using a Degritter?
How many records do you clean in a session?
Do you clean records in rapid succession (one after another) or do you wait a bit between runs?
How long do you leave the machine off between sessions? Like overnight, couple of days, a week?
Do you pre-clean records in another gadget like a Spin Clean?
I have one but am curious about other people's experience.
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@big_greg
They probably think I have lost my mind but are polite enough not to say so.
They probably think what kind of joy weed you been smokin'. 🤣
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@big_greg
I had my kids and grandkids over for a late Christmas, so no vinyl yesterday.
Do they recognize or even care about the records you listen to?
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@boxer12 Tim, the Superior Viaduct reissues of Spacemen 3 are great. 180gm vinyl pressed by Record Technology. Remastering is first rate. I think Steve (Superior Viaduct) has sold out but I’m sure if you’re looking, they can be found.
How’s the new tone arm by the way?
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Spacemen 3 “Playing With Fire” Superior Viaduct 2018 reissue of Fire Records 1989 release
L. Voag “The Way Out” Superior Viaduct 2015 reissue of a no label 1979 release
Underground Railroad to Candyland “The People Are Home” Recess Records 2015
Philip Johnson “Youth In Mourning” Superior Viaduct 2014 reissue of Namedrop 1982 release
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One more before the New Year…
Family “Fearless” United Artists 1971
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McFlys “Nights Like These” Night Fighter 2012
Blue Pontiac “Gone” no label 2012
Ghost Heart “The Tunnel” Friction 2011
Noveller “Arrow” Ba Da Bing 2020
David Nance “More Than Enough” Ba Da Bing 2016
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@bslon +1 Surf Punks
Nivhek “After Its Own Death” no label 2019 (Nivhek=Grouper=Liz Harris)
John Bender “Plaster Falling” Superior Viaduct 2016 reissue of Record Sluts release 1981
James White And The Blacks “Melt Yourself Down” Modern Harmonics 2021 reissue of Selfish Records Japan only release 1986
my bloody valentine “loveless” Domino UK 2021 reissue of Creation Records release 1991
Pom Pom Squad “OW” City Slang 2021
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Merry Christmas!
In the spirit of the moment, it seems the right time to spin the Ze Records “A Christmas Record” with various artists on the label from 1981 on white vinyl.
One notable track is “Christmas Wrapping” by The Waitresses. On the 40th anniversary of this record, Chris Butler recounted the grief the band went through writing and recording the track. What surprised him even more was “Christmas Wrapping” would become their defining song rather than “I Know What Boys Like”.
V/A “A Christmas Record” Ze Records 1981
Captain Beefheart “Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)” Warner Bros. 1978
Blind Faith “s/t” Polydor UK 1969
Alien Sex Fiend “Maximum Security” Anagram UK 1985
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Blonde Redhead “Melodie Citronique” Touch And Go 2000
Blues Control “Local Flavor” Siltbreeze 2009
Rachel’s “Music For Egon Schiele” Quarterstick 1996
The Meatmen “We’re The Meatmen…And You Suck!” Touch And Go 1983
Shellac “Dude Incredible” Touch And Go 2014
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@mammothguy54
My wife did not want my hi-fi on last night. Party pooper!
My wife is a good sport and rarely objects to my hi-fi escapades. What riles her is the buzz box regulator transformer for the hi-fi cleverly hidden behind a chair in the living room. It muffles the buzz so I don’t hear it in the hi-fi cave. If she wants to read in the living room, I’d imagine the 60hz buzz gets old pretty fast.
Someday I’ll get off my lazy arse and move the buzz box under the house😁
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@bkeske
Just caught this scrolling back today. Oh man, I might have to snag that. I have none of their recordings. Hard to believe these guys didn’t produce more and get more recognition. Excellant stuff. Thanks!
https://www.numbersband.com/shop
Brian, you may wish to consider the 2 newest CDs along with the vinyl. “The Inward City” was produced by David Thomas (long time fan and supporter) and recorded/mixed at Suma by Paul Hamann.
By the way, a bit delayed but glad your mother is doing better. I worry endlessly about mine because she’s 2500 miles away.
daniel
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Oingo Boingo “Only A Lad” A&M 1981
Grouper “Shade” Kranky 2021
Pretenders “s/t” Sire 1980
Rising Storm “Alive Again At Andover” Arf Arf 1983
Martha And The Muffins “Metro Music” Dindisc UK 1980 (might have had this on recently but may not have finished it)
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Stephane Grappelli-no title, part of Everest’s Archive of Folk and Jazz Music series, Everest 1974
Randy Newman “Little Criminals” Warner Bros 1977
Brian Eno “Here Come the Warm Jets” Island UK 1973
Magazine “magic, murder and the weather” IRS 1981
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@boxer12
Puffball, That must have been a couple of great concerts!!!
Indeed they were Tim. Both shows were at small venues. The musicians, including Fripp came and mingled with the audience asking their opinion. The California Guitar Trio were an offshoot (maybe more like successor since Guitar Craft ended a while ago) who still perform (before COVID) around Southern California.
I don’t believe there was a picture in the CD of how they perform. They form a horseshoe with Fripp on one end. Anywhere from 7 to 9 other musicians form the group. Fripp leads but the others perform their parts without any cues needed. They all played the same Ovation hollow body acoustic guitar but with steel strings. That might be evident from the CD.
Guitar Craft was a residential program at Claymont Court in West Virginia that Fripp held for several summers.
One aphorism Fripp used with the group was “If where we are going is how we get there, then we are already where we are going.”
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@boxer12 , It’s too bad none of the craftys ended up on vinyl. I saw them perform twice and picked up the companion cassette which has many more tracks than the CD.
@bkeske if you’re a Numbers Band fan (15-60-75), I received the remastered version (by Paul Hamann) of “Jimmy Bell’s Still In Town” on Exit Stencil records last week. Excellent remaster of a live recording at the Agora (the Mistake was downstairs) in Cleveland on 16 June 1975. They opened for Bob Marley and the Wailers. You can purchase directly from the Numbers Band website. The “Jackleg” LP is a Robert Kidney solo and also quite good.
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@boxer12 Tim, since you’re on a King Crimson roll, do you have any of Fripp’s work when he was doing The League of Crafty Guitarists?
Only time for one tonight,
Firesign Theatre “Don’t Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me The Pliers” Columbia 1970
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@boxer12
Tim, a suggestion for you, Helvetia “Essential Aliens” on Joyful Noise.
daniel
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@boxer12 caught that Windy & Carl a few posts back, +1 and a tip of the hat for Blues Control “Local Flavor” which arrived last week.
Been dealing with mundane house maintenance chores so not much record spinning lately.
Took some time this afternoon to relax and listen to some records my wife had before we got married. All part of the shed find series.
Santiago Navascues “Music For The Spanish Guitar” Vanguard/Ariola 1978
Joseph Haydn Sym. 31/D Major, Sym. 19/D Major, Sym. 45/F Sharp Minor
Little Orchestra Of London, Leslie Jones-director Nonesuch 1975
The Romeros “The Royal Family Of The Spanish Guitar” Mercury/Polydor 1975
Bee Gees “Greatest” RSO 1979
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@bkeske
i questioned @boxer12 about these Fire releases, and he gave them a thumbs-up, so that was good enough for me 😉
++ Tim 👍
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@bkeske Brian-no offense meant. I just happened to wandering through Fire's website looking for something else and came upon the Pere Ubu information.
Further digging revealed that Paul Hamann embarked on the Ubu remastering around the end of 2016. He had pretty much concluded the project in February or early March of 2017. By that time, Paul's health was deteriorating rapidly. To his credit, he really did work right up to the end. And we lost so much with his passing including Suma.
Daniel
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@bkeske I had asked about the reissue Pere Ubu on Fire Records if they had been remastered. You mentioned there was no indication either way on the jacket.
From Fire’s website:
“For this reworking, Paul Hamann at Suma has transferred from the original 2-track analogue mix tapes to digital at the highest resolution available which, is at least four times the resolution of the original. The tracks have carefully been re-mastered by sonic architect Brian Pyle so as to capture the unique qualities within.”
This would have been sometime before September 2017 as Paul died in mid-September.
I haven’t picked up any of them yet to compare with the original pressings.
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Steve Miller Band “Your Saving Grace” Capitol 1969
Dave Mason “Dave Mason is Alive!” Blue Thumb 1973
Randy Newman “12 Songs” Reprise 1970
Nico “The End” Island UK 1974
The New Critics “circle of states” Segue 1981
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@boxer12 a couple of +++s for Bardo Pond
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Bad Brains "Rock for Light" reissue ORG 2021
From Nursery To Misery "Pixies In The Woods" Dark Entries 2017
Jackie O Motherf*#ker "Ballads Of The Revolution" Fire Records 2009
Plasmatics "Brain Dead" MVD 2019 (11" record)
Lou Reed "Transformer" RCA 1972
David Thomas And The Pedestrians "Variations On A Theme" Sixth International 1983
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@boxer12 Tim, we’re collectively holding our breath awaiting your impressions on the Thales. Did you start/finish the arm board?
@tomic601 Yes Jim, I enjoyed our chat and look forward to our next.
@emailists All I have to do is walk across the floor and my tone arm goes hopping. Tiptoe is the rule.🤣
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Madness “Al Completo” (Complete) Stiff Spain 1982
Matching Mole “s/t” CBS UK 1972
Lene Lovich “Stateless” Stiff UK 1978
Phil Manzanera “Diamond Head” Atco 1975
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@tomic601
Thanks for the invite.
Did you receive a message.
Last record for tonight…
Adam Ant “Friend Or Foe” Epic 1982
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@tomic601
I’m in Long Beach, not far up the coast. LB is expanding the desalination operation supposedly reaching 20% within 5 years.
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