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Who thinks $5K speaker cable really better than generic 14AWG cable?

I recently ordered high end speaker, power amp, and preamp to be installed in couple more weeks. So the next search are interconnect and speaker cable. After challenging the dealer and 3 of my so called audiophile friends, I think the only reason I would buy expensive cable is for its appearance to match with the high end gears but not for sound performance. I personally found out that $5K cable vs $10 cable are no difference, at least not to our ears. Prior to this, I was totally believe that cable makes a difference but not after this and reading few articles online.

Here is how I found out.

After the purchase of my system, I went to another dealer to ask for cable opinion (because the original dealer doesn't carry the brand I want) and once I told him my gears, he suggested me the high end expensive cable ranging from $5 - 10K pair, depending on length. He also suggested the minimum length must be 8-12ft. If longer than 12ft, I should upgrade to even more expensive series. So I challenged him that if he can show me the difference, I would purchase all 7 AQ Redwood cables from him.

It's a blind test and I would connect 3 different cables - 1 is the Audioquest Redwood, 1 is Cardas Audio Clear, and 1 my own generic 14AWG about 7ft. Same gears, same source, same song..... he started saying the first cable sound much better, wide, deep, bla...bla...bla......and second is decently good...bla...bla...bla.. and the last one sounded crappy and bla...bla...bla... BUT THE REALITY, I NEVER CHANGED THE CABLE, its the same 14AWG cable. I didn't disclosed and move on to second test. I told him I connected audioquest redwood but actually 14AWG and he started to praise the sound quality and next one I am connected the 14awg but actually is Redwood and he started to give negative comment. WOW!!!! Just blew me right off.

I did the same test with 3 of my audiophile friends and they all have difference inputs but no one really got it right. Especially the part where I use same generic 14awg cable and they all start to give different feedback!!!

SO WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? OR I AM THE LAST PERSON TO FIND OUT THAT EXPENSIVE CABLE JUST A RIP OFF?
sautan904
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nonoise
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l@ieales

When I said "every chart I looked at" I was referring to those that recommend cable gauge and length, factored in with amp output. A few of them left out the category for ohms but those that did, it changed the recommendations some. Example: even though 16 gauge is sufficient for cable lengths up to 36 feet, if your dealing with a 6 ohm speaker as opposed to a 8 ohm speaker, go for 14 gauge.

As for "you’ll never know until you try", I think it speaks for itself.

And as or "the manual just won’t cut it", my personal experience tells me that despite the guidelines laid out by the pros, there’s still a lot of wiggle room in there for something that goes against the grain for reasons not yet known.

You’re not confused: I’m just somewhat a contrarian in some matters. 😄

All the best,
Nonoise
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ieales
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@nonoise 
even though 16 gauge is sufficient for cable lengths up to 36 feet, if your dealing with a 6 ohm speaker as opposed to a 8 ohm speaker, go for 14 gauge.
Speakers are rarely an even 8Ω or any Ω for that matter. For example, a KEF LS50, nominally rate 8Ω by KEF, has an impedance curve from below 4 to more than 20Ω. see https://www.stereophile.com/content/kef-ls50-anniversary-model-loudspeaker-measurements 

You were correct on "you'll never know 'til you try" and if you'd said "...the manual may not cut it.", you'd have been spot on.
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@ieales,

That's some wild swings on the KEF LS50. I just figured that if JBL rates my speaker at 6 ohms, they'd probably venture down lower than a 8 ohm rated speaker would so best to err on the side of caution and go with 14 gauge. 

Also, I'm rarely spot on but it's close enough for the girls I go with. 👍

All the best,
Nonoise
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On the back of my Advents were instructions from Henry Kloss to connect the speakers with a good grade of lamp cord. I used 'audiophile-grade' Monster Cable speaker wire. Then a friend gave me a pair of Nordost Valhalla Reference speaker ribbons. Thanks. These made such an amazing improvement in my system as to make me a believer in Nordost. Lamp cord was OK, but Valhalla is superb.
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