Some scholars of the 18th and 19th centuries claimed that the Greeks did not see colours. They saw them, and well, but they only described them in a different way, surely people’s eyes are always the same and will remain the same.
The greeks see the color but experienced them completely differently....The eyes/brain interpretation pathway was not in the same state ...
it is called a collectively induced synesthesia, they associated the wine color and sea color with other qualities like the lost of balance and never think to associate wine and sea, 2 dark objects, with a different particular color...
Qualities are never totally separate "animals"....
Some here associate harshness, and higher frequencies with the adjective "cold" light clean and detailed...
and warmer soft with dark unclean and distorted ....
This is a vocabulary existing in audio not in musical history for all musical history....
An instrument has a " tonal timbre" , an amplifier in the contrary is characterized in another way...Same for the speakers.... It is an induced habit coming from audio engineering not music or musicians... It is an induced cenesthesia associated with a particular object: an audio system...
Humans changed with culture and conditioning... But cenesthesia stay....Cenesthesia is an expression of the child state plasticity of the brain and can be collectively expressed ...
Most people in the world associated mountain peaks or a zig zag mark with a sharp qualities like a saw and a string of clouds with a soft feeling....
Even each vocal sounds induce his own cenesthesia, sometimes very different for different people....
it is a universal cenesthesia in one case, and someimes a particular cenesthesia...
Any perception of a phenomenon changed the body/brain state....It is a two way business...The phenomenon is changed too in many ways...
The greek were not wrong and Newton right, they 2 ignored, contrary to Goethe, the physiology and psychology of the perception....