Why Crazy Prices paid for Pioneer 100 JBL L100 AR1 AR3 AR3A

There are a lot of JBL speaker models that sound much better than L100s and are a relative bargain, including some truly great studio monitors home models featuring some of the best compression drivers ever made. I sometimes run across bargain JBLs that sound truly great but are relatively inexpensive because they are not one of the hot fan boy models. Keep your L100s. I'll take baby butt cheeks all day long.

jnorris2005121 posts08-09-2020 7:39pm

People that rave about Pioneer speakers will also wax poetic about "vintage" Radio Shack speakers. They’re all over the audio Facebook pages and get very gnarly if you challenge their beliefs. Forgive them. They are just boneheads who don’t know any better.

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Watch the name callin’,  I see you have the MC brashness sometimes too!  I know better, I’m not a bonehead. They are  great speakers. They were the speakers of the time. Rock and Roll was abound... And yes RS (Realistic) speakers were quit good also for their time, with a few tweeks, they both could hold their own, with anything of their time, and certainly in their price range...

Most of the guys making music, used JBL/Mcintosh monitors/amps. If they were doing their own record making, mixing, they always used what the audience was using at the time for playback.. The ones that were WAY ahead of their time anyway.. Beach Boys, Santanna, GDead, James Brown.. Call me a boneheaded maybe. Not a bone head. It goes in, It DON'T bounce off, AY? :-)

Regards

With the old speaker systems you purchased Craftsmanship, quality, and are built to last, when you put furniture polish on the wood you see REAL wood glow.not paper vinyl over MDF and the TONE IS TO DIE FOR, i still have my AR9's and my Altec 19 and they look good in the living room and bedroom, i love the sound of JBL'S and their punch of the bass, but when i listen to CHARLES MINGUS OR OSCAR PETTIFORD on that double bass i have to listen to my AR9's

It would be well to consider that a lot of the people buying vintage speakers and cars are those who had them forty years ago. They’re in their sixties and seventies now and they remember what happened in the back seat of a ’67 GTO or on the carpet in front of a pair of L-100s playing One Stormy Night...

The 4312 can pass for an "audiophile" speaker because they had three improvements over the L100s: (1) better crossovers (much more transparent and neutral sounding); (2) the three drivers were grouped together in the middle of the cabinet (providing much better imaging and soundstaging); and (3) the tweeter was ungraded (it was the last of the fabric domes before JBL switch to titanium tweeters).  Most people have never  heard how good these speakers can sound, because they have only heard them run with a lower quality receiver, and they really need high quality and powerful separate electronics to sound transparent and relatively uncolored.  I would say they are still competitive with new speakers in the $1k to $2k range - indeed people are paying up to $4k for reissued L100.  I've not heard the new ones but I own a pair of L88 plus 12 from (which I bought in the 70s) and a pair of 4312's (with the last of the fabric tweeters) which I bought about 10 years ago for around $300.  I also own a slew of moder "audiophile approved" speakers and