Why do all audio forums on the internet seem "dead" ?


Traffic is very low today vs 2000!

Are most audiophiles "set" with their systems, and no longer care?

Are 90% of audiophiles close to retirement, or retired and broke?

Most older "classic" audio equipment also does not show up for sale anymore IMO.
don_c55
I think one major reason that audio forums seem slow is Facebook - where people at least ostensibly have to post using their real names. That tends to make for a better signal to noise ratio. Contributors are a lot less likely to be snarky or pompous when readers actually know who they are.
I think the forums are useless - that is why.

They are inhabited by those trumping their own latest high priced expenditures (to justify things in their own mind more than anything else). They are further fuelled into aimless merry-go-round equipment changes by the clever "fear and bogus science" marketing of savvy dealers, sellers and boutiques (you know who you are).

There are some here who genuinely appreciate music and have good ears but they are drowned out by tin foil hatters and all manner of special unproven but "fantastic" tweaks (the grossly expensive speaker and interconnect cables being a clear example of the ridiculousness of these forums when a decent XLR or ordinary cable will do)

I deliberately left these forums for several years and just came back to check and see if anything had changed - it hasn't - forums are still stuck in aimless rambling, hyperbole and anecdotes as they were 10 years ago when I first joined.

I got better things to do! So long and thanks for the fish!
Well, if you speak of Audiogon, those of us who have been around for a number of years, know that Audiogon shot themself in the foot a few years back. Although this site now appears ’slicker’, it just ain’t the same. Too much of this site’s sale’s ads are from dealers. This is a much larger percentage than prior to Audiogon’s changing ownership. It is sad, as it does seem that the ability to sell a good item, has decreased markedly since 2011.
In addition, I am not sure what 'you' mean by Classic equipment, but there is not lack of it out there.  The problem, now, is that it's quality is acknowledged, and the prices reflect that.  I was having my tube amp repaired, and I was at my 'repair guy's' place last week.  He purchases, and refurbishes classic McIntosh tube gear.  By the looks of things at his place, he may have cornered the market of Classic Mc equipment. ;)  
Shadorne wrote,

"There are some here who genuinely appreciate music and have good ears but they are drowned out by tin foil hatters and all manner of special unproven but "fantastic" tweaks (the grossly expensive speaker and interconnect cables being a clear example of the ridiculousness of these forums when a decent XLR or ordinary cable will do)

I deliberately left these forums for several years and just came back to check and see if anything had changed - it hasn’t - forums are still stuck in aimless rambling, hyperbole and anecdotes as they were 10 years ago when I first joined.

I got better things to do! So long and thanks for the fish!"

Define grossly expensive. And haven’t folks been whining about expensive cables for 35 years? Aimless rambling, hyperbole and anecdotes? Gee, you don’t say?  Thanks for checking in and thanks for the tirade.  See ya back in three years.

Cheers,






+1 for Shadorne hit it right out of the ball park. Of course you'll get lots of backlash though. Brutal honesty is a hard pill to have to swallow..
Shadorne obviously thinks quite highly of himself and very little of most others.  If we have our own thoughts or personal idiosyncrasies or God forbid have a passion and or the means to pursue it, then we are below consideration and should be ignored.  Perhaps someday we can all just assemble a mix of audio equipment with a subjectively random pedigree and put it in a box on the wall....now that is something to hope for!
Well, I think this thread is kind of proof that at least this particular forum is not quite dead. I have some complaints too, so what? The biggest one is that for whatever reasons many very knowledgeable old timers rarly post if ever. Showing off your equipment is not a sin, but if it is the only thing that you do, yeah, it does become boring and a little irritating.
I can honestly say that I have changed my daily routine of visiting forums, to maybe twice a week, and then I only look at and read maybe 1 or two posts on any given site. Sometimes, most times, I might reply to one.

You guys should feel lucky, you got my one for today.
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@constitutionalist  Thanks for the info.
So basically, as is so typical with liberals, they cancel anyone with an opinion that differs from theirs. Sad.
I've never posted there and looks like I never will. 

I love your name, btw.


@constitutionalist

Your above post is breathtakingly ignorant.

This comment

There is NO discussion in regard to vaccines, you either get one or you are banned from the forum.

suggests clearly that you have an agenda, and no interest in facts. There are a number of active threads on the SHF about vaccines. One, entitled "If you've had it, what was your reaction to your second covid vaccine shot?", has over 1500 replies. Another, entitled "Getting my Covid shot in 6 days" has 93 responses and counting.

There are warnings not to get political on the topic, but that is absolutely within the right of any forum owner, and also understandable, if you have any clue about the tremendous burden of moderating comments on "hot-button" topics. The same warning applies broadly, which is typical of most forums.

I have no idea what your issue is with LGBT, but that Hoffman may be sympathetic to that community's rights should be irrelevant to anyone who is interested in talking about audio. No one who doesn't want to has to take part in the two – TWO – LBGT-focussed threads that I can find, one of which, incidentally, is solely about music.

Your assertion that the LGBT is somehow central to Hoffman making money through the site is also dubious. Can you provide a shred of evidence to support it? Same question for your $400,000 in earnings claim.

I won't be holding my breath.


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I have absolutely no agenda, I simply want free speech to prevail.
You don't understand how the market works. There are no free-speech guarantees on any private forums, including this one.

You made numerous false claims in your initial post, so why should readers believe what else you have to say about a forum against which you apparently have an agenda?
"I could consult you on this real good but I will ask others to do it."

What did that comment mean inna?